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"Join Sahar Family Foundation in Iraq"
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SFF, Baghdad, February 07, 2010
Translated by Iran Interlink
New regulation of “no questions” forced inside the Mojahedin Khalq
(Ashraf) camp in Iraq
Following the report of December 24, 2009
entitled “New wave of dissatisfaction and disarray in Camp Ashraf”,
in which information from within camp Ashraf was given to the
families of the victims of the Rajavi cult, we would like to
announce that a significant and growing number of the forces inside
Ashraf Garrison are now dissatisfied. They have serious doubts and
questions about the Mojahedin-e Khalq Organization (MKO) and its
leadership. They do not have complete trust in the organization
anymore. This has resulted in the creation of a widening gap between
the leadership and the body of the organization inside the camp. The
growing unrest can be seen from the rapidly growing number of
slogans being written clandestinely on the walls in public places
inside the camp against the Mojahedin Organization and its
leadership.
Members now ask questions about their doubts
over the past years of practices of the Mojahedin organization and
its leadership. The unlimited questions cover many aspects of the
past practices which of course are all left unanswered and no
commander is ready to even tackle any of them.
This has resulted in many members effectively
leaving the organization, but the Leaders and the commanders do not
allow them get out of the camp and have in fact imprisoned them
inside the camp. The organization of course has a history of
refusing its members to even leave the camp for a few hours in order
to meet and visit their families.
Rajavi has recently been trying to calm the
members by diverting their attention with a series of messages and
propaganda tapes. The messages clearly forbid any questioning in any
field by any member. Alongside this, members are now forced to do
hard physical labor
including agricultural, production and services for unlimited hours. This is
believed to be affecting the mental judgment of the members as the
creation of exhausting fatigue renders them unable to think about
their problems and questions. According to reports coming out of the
camp this practice of exhaustion is even more useful in the case of
the known members who have been identified as disaffected.
Sahar
Family Foundation
in Baghdad is urging the international community, human rights
organizations as well as the authorities in the Iraqi Government and
Western governments to look at the situation of Ashraf Garrison and
stop the dangers posed by the leaders of the group against the
people residing there. Sahar Family Foundation is announcing as it
has always announced before its willingness to help and cooperate
with Iraqi and International bodies in this humanitarian mission.
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Sahar Family Foundation,
Baghdad, December 19, 2009
Translated by Iran
Interlink
New wave of
dissatisfaction and disarray in Camp Ashraf
According to credible reports received by SFF from inside Camp
Ashraf (where over 3500 victims of Mojahedin Khalq terrorist cult
are kept as bargaining chips by the leader Massoud Rajavi), after
the arrest and the subsequent release of 36 of the members by the
Iraqi security forces last summer, Massoud Rajavi and his deputy
Mojgan Parsai have been forcing everyone to attend brainwashing
meetings with the aim of getting some control over the forces there.
According to the news now coming out, these new sessions have not
been effective any more and the unrest and demonstrations are
increasing rapidly.
In some instances, the forces of Mojahedin Khalq Organisation (MKO)
inside sections 13 and 15 of this camp have been distributing
written leaflets entitled “death to Rajavi” and “Rajavi lies”.
The leaders of the Rajavi cult has reacted with panic and have
confiscated all computers, printers, copy machines etc from these
sections.
News suggests that given an alternative place to go, 70 to 80
percent of the stranded people will leave the camp and distance
themselves from Rajavi. The leaders of the cult are desperately
trying to keep the people isolated and away from any outside contact
in a bid to stop the news coming out.
Sahar Family Foundation warns about yet another attempt by the
leaders of the MKO to divert attention by creating yet another
massacre similar to that which they created last summer.
Sahar Family Foundation asks all relevant Iraqi and international
bodies, in particular those in a position of influence in western
countries, to intervene to stop yet another disaster committed
against the people who are trapped by the MKO leaders in this camp,
by opening the doors and letting them have free access to the
outside world.
We will be giving more news about this as soon as possible.
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Interview with Batul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - a précis of
parts 27-28
Human shield in defense of Ashraf
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad,
October 12, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family Foundation:
Ms. Soltani, if you will, let’s have a discussion on the issue of
human shield and mass suicides and what necessitated its
application. What are the parameters that influence the operations
and to what degree and under what circumstances they extend?
Batul Soltani: At the threshold of the US invasion against
Iraq and when threats were nearing the action, Rajavi was sensitive
on two things; defending Ashraf against external threats including
closing the camp and expulsion from Iraq and second, adopting an
appropriate means to defend Ashraf and resist. He specifically
reiterated that Ashraf had to be defended tooth and nail. But the
premise developed into more objective form of defense when Saddam
collapsed and the suggestion of human shield turned to be a serious
option on the agenda of Rajavi. Of course, at the time the
organization was busy preparing passports for high ranking members
including the members of the Leadership Council to relocate when the
right time came.
The option was first brought to attention in a session where Massoud
Rajavi addressed the audience through a satellite broadcasted
videoconference. Of the subjects he focused on were Ashraf and
Auvers, stating that Auvers and Maryam were believed to be the brain
of the organization while Camp Ashraf was the beating heart of the
resistance against Iran. For sure the brain kept working until the
heart beat. Ashraf was the heart that pumped the blood to brain and
had to be protected by any means; the two were interconnected and
one failed to operate without the other. It was what he talked about
from a theoretical point of view.
Following the incidents of the June 17, it was broached that the
members of the Leadership Council had to be prepared to protect
Ashraf. It was the first time the human shield tactic was implicitly
touched on in general. In one of his messages to Mozhgan (Parsai)
Rajavi recapitulated that we would stay, die and bury here in Ashraf
but never move. It was a question of resisting or dying if the
Iraqis decided to repatriate members to Iran or evict from Ashraf to
another location. Of course, repatriation to Iran was out of
question because of the internationally guaranteed IDs issued for
the members under the article four of the Geneva Convention. To tell
the truth, it was not at all important for the organization to make
any attempt for the safety of the members; all it cared about was
survival of the organization and preserving Camp Ashraf and protect
it against external threats. Then, the focal point was to think of
means to accomplish the end.
The human shield was one of the opted options; mass suicides could
effectively frustrate any effort that aimed at dismantling the
integrity of Ashraf. It included any other threat like forced entry
of American or coalition forces to temporarily close or deactivate
the camp. Our first choice to resist against intruders had to be
using non-firing weapons; needless to say that the organization
actually made no resistance against the American forces and
succeeded to take the control and hegemony of the camp in its own
hands.
However, the human shield tactic was temporally removed from the
agenda since Ashraf continued to be under the organization’s control
and there was no need to make use of the ploy. As Rajavi stated, he
preferred the ‘arms carriers’, meaning the disarmed members, to the
arms themselves; an incorporated armless army could be much
functional and appropriate than the arms. The question of suicide
operations and human shield were all directed at safeguarding the
entity of the organization and its hierarchical order; it was the
red line that could not be crossed and all members had to preserve.
It was the policy adopted until 2006 when I left the organization.
The deployment of the American forces at Ashraf made no change in
the organizational structure and it took the liberty of acting
according to its ironbound disciplinary. The regular commute of
individuals into Ashraf followed its routine and they brought
anybody into the camp under the cover of the visiting families and
they were even present when American forces inspected visitors at
the check points.
There is a statement issued by the National Council of Resistance
that specifically warns against the outbreak of what the
organization refers to as human tragedy in the case of any possible
attack against the camp by the IR forces or missile attack. It is
what the organization expresses for the outsiders but its real
definition for the insiders is the use of human shield to thwart any
threat of eviction or expulsion enforced by the Iraqi government.
The statement explicitly clarifies the responsibility of members in
defense of Ashraf; any member has to become a human shield to impede
disintegration of Mojahedin’s main bastion and heart. I remember a
time when there came the news of Badr’s 9th army and groups of local
Shi’its nearing the gates of Ashraf. The organization announced full
alert and all the members of the Leadership Council began
preparations for mass suicide. Some brought arms and cyanides were
checked and distributed. So serious were they in carrying out their
mission that two members of the council, Marzieh Ali-Ahmadi and Darz
Beigi, committed suicide when in their returning to camp they got an
impression of being challenged.
SFF: What were the more highlighted factors about mass
suicides, the manners, conditions or their reflection in the media?
BS: They were much sensitive to record the scenes of the
immolations for immediate and widespread media coverage. In fact,
the priority was having the control of media and resources in hands.
To air first hand reports, the organization had positioned equips of
photography in the vicinity of the scenes of operations.
SFF: How the suicides were planned to be launched and what
conditions caused their materialization?
BS: the suicides had to be carried out first individually and
one by one. In the next stage, if threatening forces behind the
gates of Ashraf were resolute to break into the camp, the members
had the order of committing suicides in groups. In the case of a
widespread military intrusion that could lead to the fall of camp,
all the members were to commit a mass suicide. The Leadership
Council had clearly delineated anything to counter threats against
the heart of the organization and to coerce a line of human shield
before Ashraf.
To be continued
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Interview with Batul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part 26
Neda had been tutored from the childhood
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad,
October 09, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family Foundation:
Ms. Soltani, you know better that the organization had highly
invested on Neda who was hardly of any weight and importance within
and without the organization until she was burned to death, an
anonymous girl who had suddenly become the focal attention of the
media in a week. I believe she achieved preeminence in public and it
can be said that she had great impact on the whole situation. Of
course, that was exactly what the organization expected. As Neda’s
case is sensitive, let’s talk about her and her life and struggle
background and I will pose further question if necessary.
Batul Soltani: You are right. Neda was not a preeminent among
the members before her immolation. It was possible that in the
higher echelons they had given her some attention but nothing
amongst the rank and file. Her popularity is considered to be for a
variety of reasons especially her age. To talk of my acquaintance
with her, we were once on the same team-work in Camp Ashraf before
the US invasion of Iraq and when Maryam (Rajavi) was still in
Ashraf. However, Neda left for the Europe simultaneous with Maryam’s
relocation to France. Of course, Neda had been raised and living in
Europe and came to Ashraf after she was graduated.
SFF:
Pardon me, Ms. Soltani, I prefer to pose questions on the spot. Was
Neda an active member of the organization abroad?
BS:
Not from the very beginning. The organization first worked on Neda’s
family and they became sympathizers through participation in rallies
and protest meetings. Gradually, the organization succeeded to
recruit Neda and her brother to transfer them to Ashraf. The family,
however, remained just sympathizers. You know, it is one of the
approaches through which the organization recruits members. There
are countless instances of the families that ceased their support
for the organization while their children are still enthusiastic
cadres who gainsay their own families. There are also instances of
the parents detached from the organization while their children are
active members or vice-versa; a real tragedy that has been going on
all these years within the organization.
SFF:
There is a photo of Neda in her seven or eight busy fundraising for
the organization. Have you seen the photo?
BS:
Yes, I have seen. The very same year Neda set herself on fire; it
was one of the many photos they publicized in a biography of her. It
is an indication of the organization’s impact on her family to have
convinced them to let their daughter to engage in fundraising
activities because of her low age. So she was somehow a sympathizer
from the childhood. She was naive and emotionally sensitive and
could be easily impressed. I think such photos talk enough to
condemn the organization of abusing the sympathizer’s children.
SFF:
Were Neda’s family political refugees?
BS:
I do not know. But it was typical of the organization to establish
contacts particularly with the political refugees since a cause of
sympathy could easily convince them to cooperate with the
organization especially when the families were on the fence or were
facing problems. Because of its influence abroad, the organization
could attract some of these families under its umbrella to exploit
them for its political aims. Noteworthy, many of these families that
had been granted political asylum through mediation of the
organization faced troubles after they announced their detachment.
SFF:
Was Neda born in Europe?
BS:
I do not know, but I know she was raised in abroad.
SFF:
What about her education?
BS:
I have no exact information but I have seen a videotaped celebration
of her graduation as well as her photos.
SFF:
I think there is something ambiguous about her academic education
because of her age. How old was she when she committed suicide?
BS:
I think she was twenty-one.
SFF:
Naturally, she could not have possibly been a university graduate.
Beside her age, she was on a continuous process of moving and
relocation.
BS:
I may have seen a videotaped party of her becoming a high school
graduate. So she must have been nineteen when she came to Ashraf.
(Here Ms. Soltany pressed some keys on the laptop at her hands to
make sure) Yes, it is here, she was nineteen. However, she was in
Ashraf for a year and then left for the Europe accompanying Maryam;
she came in 2001 and left in 2002.
SFF:
How did she behave in Ashraf?
BS:
She was a kind of friendly, I mean, she was warm and intimate and
very active.
SFF:
What organizational rank did she carry?
BS:
She was a K2, the lowest organizational rank. But she caught their
attention because of her active potentiality and they were satisfied
with her activeness. At the time, they hardly sent anybody abroad
and they were sensitive to select one if one had to be sent to
Europe. But they selected Neda to send abroad and she was one of the
few who accompanied Maryam.
SFF:
Did not it raise question when they decided to send someone in her
eighteens abroad especially after she had just arrived at Ashraf?
BS:
She was too close to organizational standards and was well melted in
the relations. These parameters were influentially decisive.
SFF:
How is it possible that a young, europeanized girl who had just
detached from a common, bourgeoisie world to join a remote camp and
whose only distinctiveness was to have been recruited from a
sympathizer family could so fast become the main focus of the
organization’s attention. Could she in a one-year span reach a
practically ideological maturity?
BS:
You know, a great drawback that disputed sending members abroad was
a risk of sticking to the tastes of the bourgeoisie life there. In
contrast to what you think, the age and struggle background were not
the fixed canons to pick a member for a mission abroad. There were
members with a forty-year record of struggle who the organization
never consented to send abroad because they could be easily enticed
by the threats of the bourgeoisie life. Nasrin Asadi, for example,
was a real expert in accounting who had long lived in abroad. Then,
she could be a suitable choice to be sent abroad since she was well
acquainted with the social atmosphere there to play an influential
role but they opposed her dispatch. Even I, who had been already
sent to England for some time to receive computer trainings, had
failed to win their trust since there was a possibility of making
contacts with my family and children. In general, they never
selected exhausted, questionable members to dispatch to abroad where
they could be probably magnetized by the bourgeoisie life. It was of
great importance for the organization to learn that the selected
members had truly despised the bourgeoisie life and abhorred
returning to it in the same way that they loathed the imperialism
and the regime.
SFF:
How is it logically acceptable that a girl in Neda’s age had reached
a point to despise such a life? Of course by logic I mean the very
logic that rules within the organization. Possibly that is because
the organization had worked on Neda from her childhood when values
deeply form in man. It can be said that Neda received her
ideological trainings from the very childhood which precisely
differentiated her with the adults who received their trainings in
their young and mid-ages. Besides, Neda voluntarily came to Ashraf
while the organization insisted her stay in Europe. She had
reiterated many times that she preferred a militia life to political
activities and she was absolutely opposed to her transfer to Europe
and even cried and begged to stay in Ashraf while others like Laleh
Tariqi and Zelal Habibi who had been picked to be sent abroad
submitted to orders with pocketed pleasure. I want to know how Neda
could overcome the threats of being melted in bourgeoisie life while
the more experienced, old members had failed.
BS:
Neda was selected for abroad because she felt no attraction for the
bourgeoisie life. There was no doubt and the organization had been
convinced. She had no craving to return to the world she had
divorced. As a rule, the organization dispatched recruits to Ashraf
to caulk their bourgeoisie appeals and to obviate threats of
returning to it. Talking about Neda, it is different. She was young
and standing at the beginning of a long path full of costs and
threats and she lacked the organizational maturity to understand
these facts in a theoretic, political and ideological framework. Her
sympathy for the organization was the result of her childhood
enthusiast and the information the organization had instilled into
her in a one way relation. Above all, she was so young to face any
challenge and adversary.
She was different with those who had been tied in with the
organization at least from its post-revolution phase and had long
been witnessing repeated losses and Rajavi’s promises that never
came true. They had surmounted a tortuous path that had raised
further doubts in each step; they had been broken many times but
remodeled through Rajavi’s justifications and promises. They know
how Rajavi dealt with the dissidents and they were well aware of the
costs they had to pay to defect; they have long been engaged in a
never-ceasing battle with the past and future and the organization
has to devise approaches to monitor them and to discover what passes
in their mind. How busy is the young mind of Neda to know anything
of these wrestling?
Unlike Neda, these members have lost a precious life with no hope to
refurbish. At least they try to take advantage of any possible
opportunity to rebuild the remaining days of an unsecure future, let
them call it threats of reunion with the bourgeoisie life or
anything, for them it is closeness to freedom. They have long been
filled with promises but nothing has ever changed. That is the
reason why the young Neda is selected while the old veterans are
kept behind the closed doors.
To be continued
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Interview with Batul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part 25
Defining an organizational jargon
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad,
October 07, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family Foundation:
Ms. Soltani, one of the intriguing subjects to talk about is the
organization’s use of an internal jargon on which one can collect a
book. You have repeatedly used such jargons in the course of you
interviews and that may be because you have failed to find
equivalents for them or you are used to using them. One of these
jargons is the term ‘pardakhtgar’. If you please, start by
explaining about this jargon.
Batul Soltani:
Frankly speaking, you are right and one can compile a terminology of
jargons used in the organization’s internal relations. More
interesting is when you listen to an inter-organizational debate and
for sure you need a jargon expert to interpret so you may understand
what they mean. To talk about the stated jargon of ‘pardakhtgar’,
the organization always insisted that in contrast to rumors outside
that the members displayed no sign of emotion towards their
children, families and relatives and denounced them just as
heartless people devoid of love and amity would, we do value
emotions and are sentimental beyond ordinary people. To prove, the
organization gave examples to show that much of the affection and
friendliness dominating the society are conditional, superficial and
shows of formality; a trademark only to secure interests. It
reasoned that as soon as people felt their interests were
threatened, all love and friendly passions would vanish and brothers
tried to cheat and tear each other to protect their interests.
It holds the persuasion that unlike the world outside, a member of
Mojahedin has established a relation of ‘pardakhtgar’ with the
family and associates. To have a better understanding of the term,
they would say a member of Mojahedin establishes his relations with
his family and associates according to the prevalent social norms
but he never engages in an interest-rated relation to turn his back
on them for personal interests. A member of Mojahedin, they would
say, is a clear-sighted revolutionary highly appreciating feelings
and sentiments and who intends to purge them of the filth of caste
and exploitation. It is only possible through cleansing the society
and people’s living milieu, or as they would say, to purify the
oxygen they intake. In a purged society, motivations transcended
worldly interests and feeling were no more means to trick and hoax
the intimates and people. In that case, no class system and personal
interest could possibly blur the feelings with illusions of
materialism and unconditional and true love would find its real
value with no relative bond to define it.
Then, they raised the question that the most appreciated love and
affection was the unconditional kind the organization was after and
it was impossible to achieve unless the society could be purged. As
the revolutionary elements undertaking the responsibility to
implement the cause, Mojahedin saw no other way but to temporary
sacrifice whoever they loved. Here the term ‘pardakhtgar’ can be
defined; that is to say, a member of the organization sacrifices his
love and affection for the family and associates so they may
transcend the limits of the material world and achieve the sphere of
an unconditional love and affection that could include not only the
beloved around them but the humanity in general. His struggle and
immolation is to stop people paying for the attention and affection
they receive and to purify the atmosphere and set up a utopia
wherein the unconditional love will reign.
This is a one-way demonstration of love and feeling and only a
Mojahed is believed to fully discern the meaning of love and passion
for the close and the humanity. He curbs all his feelings and
deprives himself of a common give and take interest-rated love for a
permanently stable tender and unconditional love. To achieve the
goal, one side has to sacrifice and he is a Mojahed.
SFF:
Ms. Soltani, the fact is that such claims are much alluring and
idealistic. But a question to ask, were they really truthful in what
they claimed or it was another abused means to achieve
organizational ends? Was Rajavi after creating the claimed utopia or
he was channeling the feelings towards a milieu of highly committed
relationship?
BS:
To tell the truth, Rajavi is a real, ingenious sophist. I have
reiterated many times that when you look at the organization from
the inside, you see an integrated order wherein everything looks to
be at its own place. But the problem begins when you look at it from
the outside and try to discern the encountered ambiguities and
paradoxes according to the existing system before you, nothing is at
its place and you are left in the middle of complete disarray. It is
the very same matter with the term ‘pardakhtgar’. In contrast to its
internal interpretation, it is meant be spent for and direct all
love and affection to the leadership alone and to force all in his
obedience. Of course, you will notice a flagrant contradiction in
Rajavi’s claims. I think even a revolutionary struggling for a
certain cause has to secure an emotional bond first with his own
family and relatives before trying to universalize it.
Those who easily turn their back on their children, parents and any
beloved one are in fact practicing to cut all attachments with the
outside world. When Rajavi states that all love and devotion has to
be directed to him, he means to be replaced with all the sources of
attachments; he must be the sole entity without whom the promised
utopia could not possibly be established. Such a theory works for a
variety of abusive purposes. A member devoid of familial
attachments, for instance, can easily carry out a mission of purging
a member of his own family just because the victim is claimed to be
an agent of the regime. Thus, I believe such rhetoric is mainly
aimed for personal interests to guarantee Rajavi’s egocentric
dominance over the organization.
To be continued
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Interview with Batul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part 24
The members were coerced into dedicating themselves to Massoud and
Maryam
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad,
October 05, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family Foundation:
Ms. Soltani, in our last session, you pointed to instances of the
organization’s persuasive approaches in its contact with the
victims’ families with particular emphasis on Neda’s family. Did not
such dual behavior raise any suspicion when the family saw that on
the one hand the organization eulogized Neda as a holy martyr but on
the other hand claimed her immolation as an impulsive and willful
act? Did the organization or Maryam have any other scenario to
justify the dual deal?
Batul Soltani: it is a good point. In General, the
organization had adopted a dual position concerning the immolations.
You could easily make out two images of the victims; an image was to
demonstrate them as holy individuals to fuel its propaganda machine
and encourage others to take the same line, and the other, to put
the responsibility of immolations on the victim themselves to dodge
any charges against the organization. But, as you pointed out, the
organization is clever enough not to err and prepares an exact
scenario before stepping into action. To make Neda’s family to
believe, for example, the organization forged a journal that it
claimed belonged to Neda. It contained some personal photos and some
recollections from her family and friends and especially notes
indicating her enthusiastic devotion and commitment to Maryam.
Neda’s parents were simple people who could simply believe as if
their daughter’s life was tied to Maryam and finally, they appeared
to be convinced to show no reaction even if they could not believe
it all at the bottom of their hearts.
At the end, they came to be persuaded that their daughter had
committed suicide and they could change nothing for her loss. Then,
the organization put two choices before them; to move in parallel
with the organization’s scenario in glorification of their
daughter’s death or take an opposite side and spoil everything and
sully their daughter’s name. Facing such a dilemma, of course they
preferred to consent to the organization’s will and follow its
scenario. Thus, in spite of the fact that they might have discerned
the contradiction in the organization’s manner, they faced the
bitter truth that they could in no way change anything. Of course, I
am not sure if Neda’s parents or other victims’ families had ever
become aware of such contradiction. In any case, the organization
had thought of a plan to ward off any criticism or charge. The first
priority was to make them reconcile themselves to the organization
through a variety of offers, threatening, deception and smearing the
reputation. Each can be a different subject to talk about.
SFF: In relation to the approaches you pointed out, what
could have been the reaction of the organization if Neda’s family
took a different turn against it?
BS: Naturally, the organization would face a rocky road to
ride but not impossible. It always had a trick up its sleeve and the
best working one would be to classify them as the opponents.
Everything would be clear then and the organization did to the
family whatever it would do vis-à-vis its opponents. To mention,
remember Reza Asadi the father of Zohreh Asdi. The father separated
from the organization while his daughter is still a member. Or the
case of Somayeh Muhammadi whose father strives to get his daughter
out of Camp Ashraf. The least charge against them is that the
organization has labeled them the agents of IR regime. The
organization does everything to spoil their characters and indicting
them for a variety of baseless charges of theft, immorality and the
like.
Imagine a defector in its worst become the agent of the regime, it
might be possible. But being so scoundrel an individual was
impossible especially when he had served the organization for some
time and they had disclosed nothing about such a rogue. Anything for
the organization is either black or white, nothing in the middle.
You have to be either on its side or the opposite against whom it
has adopted an antagonist attitude to the end. Even if a defector
had once been exalted as a hero, nothing can save him from the wrath
of the organization by joining the opposite side.
I mean to say that it could be the same thing with the families if
they failed to compromise with the organization. Only if it happened
that Neda’s family had taken an antagonistic route against the
organization, the first person who stood against the family would be
their own son living in Ashraf. And only God knows what charge would
be posed against them and they would be accused of what untold
scandals; and it was enough to mobilize the sympathizers against
them to disturb and annoy them and turn their life into a real hell.
The organization had always a coin with two sides at hand; a
brilliant, alluring side and a hell of a bad side and I have seen
the bad side abroad when it decided to treat the opponents. The
simplest approach was to instigate hatred among the sympathizers and
the opponents; there was nothing more to do but to sit and watch
them finish the job themselves. For sure, the organization had shown
the other side of the coin to Neda’s family and what it was capable
of doing to change things completely; they could choose to become
wretched, dejected people who could not even dare to visit their
daughter’s tomb.
It is a tactic for the organization not to open a war front at the
first stage and to arrive at a compromise through other approaches
and promises. That is because it may inflict much cost on the
organization and a longer process to follow if it shows an
antagonistic attitude from the very beginning. Of course, there is a
red line nobody should ever transgress; the sanctity of leadership,
Maryam and organizational principles should never be violated. Now
imagine Neda’s family had taken a different path and had fallen with
the organization; their very first move to make preparation for
their daughter’s burial and mourning would turn as a backlash
against themselves and they would face accusations of being
provisioned and provided for by Iranian regime and more.
An odd but common approach was to coerce members to endorse in their
own handwriting that they had entrusted whatever they had to Massoud
and Maryam, as I did myself. We put it in writing to announce we
were possessions of the two and had willingly chosen our path of
struggle and devotion. We also stated that our emotional communion
with family and relatives was not a superficially common and limited
but relatively ‘pardakhtgar’ (an organizational jargon meaning
sacrificing all love and emotion for a greater cause). Our real love
and devotion all had to be spent for the accomplishment of higher
and dearer causes and for Massoud and Maryam; they were the central
integrity of all love and devotion and all families had to be
grateful of entrusting the life of their children into the hands of
the two. I am sure Neda too had signed such papers before committing
immolation and had conceded her life and love to Maryam which could
be used as a winning card before her family.
To be continued
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Interview with Batul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part 23
Neda’s family feeling obligated to the organization
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad,
October 01, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family Foundation:
Remarkable in the immolation’s observation is the subject of the
organization’s establishment of relation with the family of the
victims. First, it is of significance to learn from what angle the
organization does look at the families. Second, how it opens
relations with them; third, is the family background ever important
to select the suicide, and forth, what deterrent role this family
backgrounds plays to affect selection of the victims? And last,
elucidate the impact of the 17 June self-burnings on families as you
have witnessed.
Batul Soltani:
Your questions although they all focus on a single issue, they can
be discussed from a variety of aspects concerning the organization’s
furthering relations with families. Let’s begin with some
introductory details and I will further explain if needed. The
organization keeps a confidential file for members with whatever
ranking and organizational background in which there is certain
sub-file containing information about the members’ family; the
individual statistics of any family member, social class, job
status, political inclinations and where they live, that is to say,
inside or outside of Iran. The latter information is highly
important for the organization and it cares about the families’
dwelling in foreign countries. All supervisors were sensitive to
find out if the members under their command had any member of their
family residing in any foreign country.
It was much because the presence of a family member in a foreign
country could be challenging and would cost the organization a lot.
From a political-security point of view, they could possibly
infiltrate the organization under any pretext to get it into
trouble. As a result, members whose family or some member of their
families lived abroad were suspected to be bonded with an
infiltrator. I will explain how they could cause trouble. The
organization became hypersensitive to families especially in the
case of occurring suspicious deaths, suicide operations, missing of
members and imprisonments and the like. When, for instance, a member
like Soheil Khata died of a suspicious cause, the organization cared
not the least because he had nobody abroad. Nobody knew he died of
suicide or was murdered. His death was no cause of trouble because
he had nobody abroad to question the organization, but it could be
different if he had.
Now compare the organization’s indifference to Khata’s death and its
manner and conduct with Neda’s family before and after her suicide
operation. That is because Neda’s family lived abroad since long and
they could push the organization into real crisis if they wanted and
reacted against her death. So the organization mobilized all its
power to bring her family under its control and, I believe, the
organization had been in close contact with her family even before
her self-immolation. It is even of magnitude to work first on her
father or mother and I am sure they worked according to a scenario
as I know that is how they act.
Here is the evidence to prove my claim. Following the immolations,
Mozhgan Parsai stated that the immolations had inflicted heavy
responsibility on the organization abroad. She meant Neda’s
immolation with regard to her family’s living abroad could get the
organization into big trouble and that calculated steps had to be
taken when dealing with her family. It was not important in the case
of Marzieh Babakhani because she had nobody living abroad. Mozhgan
insisted that all had to be mobilized to concentrate on Neda’s
family and especially on her brother who was in Camp Ashraf. She
issued additional orders to watch him directly and closely and to
establish specific contact with him to further and justifiably
clarify the issues. They in the organization know the right time for
the right action through the proper means.
It is also of great concern in what country the families live, in
England, France, Germany or any other European or non-European
country. That is because the juridical systems in these countries
could influentially affect the results of any lawsuit by the
families against the organization. Remarkable in the organization’s
ploy was Maryam’s showy behavior with Neda Hassani’s family. From
the very beginning, Maryam started with a ceremoniously emotional
demeanor and would weep tears in their presence to show her grief
over her death. She wept for her and, at the same time, praised her
spontaneous act in a show of her ultimate commitment to repudiate
responsibility of her death and avert any lawsuit by her family. The
organization had even purchased gifts and presents to give her
family on occasions. It moved just according to a preplanned
scenario. Noteworthy in this entire affair was that all these
factitious manners were filmed and photographed for widespread
propaganda shows that were heavily reflected in the media.
SFF:
Sorry to interrupt Ms. Soltani. Let’s continue the subject
corroborated with your evidences in the next session. What were
other issues the organization explicitly stressed on in relation to
Neda’s family? Did they merely intend to gratify the family or
implicitly made threatening to deter the family from engaging in any
lawsuit against the organization?
BS: As I said, the organization mainly tried to persuade them
that Nada’s immolation was not an organizationally persuaded action
but impulsive. Of course all was implicitly stated otherwise it
could imply organizational disobedience and Maryam was reluctant to
use such terms directly. She rather meant to persuade the family
that Neda’s death was the outcome of her great devotion and
commitment to her leader and thus, on the one hand Neda would be the
sole responsible for her own death and on the other hand, it would
be Maryam who pocketed the merit of her action. Of course, Maryam
showed so distraught with grief for Neda’s death that her parents
who, impressed by Maryam’s performance, forgot about their own
grieves and began to condole her on their own daughter’s death.
Although it might be hard to believe and digest, but it really
happened and the organization acted much cunningly in its role
playing; to send an innocent to her death and then to sit weeping
along with her family and then, not only escape trial on charges of
her death but to make the family feel indebted to the murderer.
To be continued
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Interview with Batul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part 22
17 June immolations, orchestrated or willful acts
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad,
September 29, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family Foundation:
Ms. Soltani, significantly noticed in the course of the
self-burnings was the TV coverage of the incidents; I mean the
footages shot by the organization itself. It can be analyzed from
different aspects especially when the organization claims
immolations as willful and self-initiated acts. The very originally
filmed scenes of the immolations prove that anything had been
orchestrated beforehand. Will you give a further explanation of the
outlook?
Batul Soltani: First I have to point out that I was not in
the Europe at the time and saw noting directly. Whatever I impart is
personal inferences. Concerning your question, it is explicit that
the footages of the immolations were all filmed by the agents of the
organization itself. The fact was accentuated in the internal
meetings held in Camp Ashraf that it had been all filmed by the
organization and distributed to a variety of foreign TV networks.
Even they displayed the footages of Marzieh Babakhani and Mohsen
Sharifi’s self-burnings and underlined it had all been filmed by the
equipped agents of the organization. But they never said a word
about it for the outsiders and claimed the footages were random TV
reports filmed by other networks. Although they had done their best
not to err, you could clearly identify the members in the frame of
the camera.
Besides, there are other evidences to prove the footages were the
work of the organization itself. Footages are usually licensed for a
certain network and any second coverage carries the original
licensed logo attached to it. It is natural, since there exists a
competition among the Western networks and agencies to have the
leading role in an incident and to own the copyright on the footage;
the footages of the self-burnings all lacked the licensed logo which
proves the leading role of the organization in recording all scenes.
As soon as a member sets himself/herself on fire, the camera starts
recording and it is exactly positioned where it had to. The big
mistake made by the organization is that the scenes are all filmed
by professional hand recorders rather than ordinary cameras or
mobiles, which reduces the possibility of any random record.
The used sophisticated equipments proved that it was also a
simultaneously orchestrated operation. It is strange to see someone
walk to gas station to procure gasoline and then march to a certain
location where he sets himself on fire; nobody ever think of it as a
random shot, it is a film making. How people may come to believe the
claims of the organization that the immolations were unplanned but
self-initiated is too amazing. No doubt, they were exactly
pre-planned and followed a written scenario. Another point to notice
is the reflection of these operations outside of the organization.
After her release, Maryam Rajavi claimed the French police had
prevented distribution of a prepared videotaped message in which she
had asked members to cease self-burnings. The claim seems to be true
since termination of an action is possible when you have issued
orders for its commence. No member dared to engage in any act unless
authorized and approved by the leader but no outsider had a clear
image of internal affairs; they had to be kept in dark about the
plans to prevent further negative costs and consequences. As you
saw, in the course of some held trials in European courts, they
could convince the court about the voluntariness of decisions.
There are other evidences that support the idea of organizationally
schemed operations. To enumerate them, the first is the widespread
TV coverage of the incidents; the authentic record of events is
clear and widely distributed while each is filmed in a certain part
of the Europe. The second is the vast propaganda blitz they staged
following the operations, and second, and the most important, is
Rajavi’s message mainly focusing on the operations and referring to
the victims by names. Last but not the least, there are evidences of
the organization’s past threats. I remember Massoud and Maryam once
threatened the French government of staging self-burning operations
which was endorsed by many members who volunteered in the letters of
the ideological revolution. They would read these letters to us in
the course of training classes. As Rajavi stated in one of his
speeches, the identical aspect in all these letters was volunteering
for self-immolation. Thus, there remains no doubt that the
operations were all organizationally orchestrated and aimed to
achieve certain goals.
SFF: A question to ask, had all these self-burnings been
planned to kill or the priority was laid on the propaganda and
political aspects of the operations? Is it possibly justifiable that
the organization had already promised members that it would
interrupt to survive them immediately as soon as they had staged the
operations?
BS: I know nothing of these details in particular. If they
had resolved on such a policy, it would have been worked out in
councils out of Auvers-sur-Oise. I cannot exactly impart anything.
SFF: Well. In your opinion, is it of any significance for the
organization to focus on the political aspects and convince the
members that it never lets anybody get harmed but betrays them in
practice and sends them to their death?
BS: I do not think it is a proper angle to look from since
there is actually no need for the organization to make such
preparations. When members volunteer to risk their life, it means
they have given their final acquiescence to die. There is no need to
trick them and nobody hesitates to set himself on fire when the
command is issued. It is possible that the organization decides to
limit the killings to one or two but there might come times when the
span of propagation borders no limitation and the circumstances
require further continuation of the operations. The momentous
approach the organization utilizes to overcome its crises is
directly risking the life of the members.
As a result, it has the upper hand in having a particular situation
in its own control by sending multitudes of victims to their death.
If ever it discriminates in favor of a ranking member and makes an
attempt to save him/her that is because of his/her organizational
status and has nothing to do ever with caring for the humane
attitudes and the victim’s individual values. Still, the
organization regretted the attempts made for the survived. Marzieh
Babakhani was badly burned when they smothered the fire and she was
a pitiful creature to look at with all those burns that had damaged
her face and hands. She was badly deformed and suffered a lot and it
was disputed why she had been allowed to live and they openly wished
she had died.
SFF: Have you seen the photos of these operations’ victims?
BS: Neither themselves nor their photos. They said the
doctors had failed to treat them well and from the bulk of their
propaganda it could be discerned that the victims had made a great
impression. Once Mozhgan (Parsai) applauded Marzieh saying she was a
living martyr of the organization. She would say Neda and Sediqeh
had passed away once for ever but Marzieh was suffering and dying in
any moment. It is easy to picture how emotionally they impressed the
members and alleviate the psychological and physical agonies of the
victims.
To be continued
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Interview with Batul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part 21
17 June immolations and the test of commitment
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad,
September 26, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family Foundation:
What impact did immolations have on the relations within Camp
Ashraf, and what objectives did the organization aim to achieve in
particular?
Batul Soltani: The impact was widespread and it can be
studied from a variety of angles. One was to promulgate and
propagate the incident through a variety of means like video-clips,
music, plays and TV programs. To impress the members, they had
collected many old, impressive and devotionally themed music and
songs and made new compositions that were then mixed with
self-burning clips that were repeatedly displayed in dining halls
and canteens. The ends they strived for were to provoke and
encourage members to identify with the models, to eulogize victims
as heroes and heroines, to create a sense of self-criticism for
failing to fully fulfill obligations, to coerce them to increase
their frequent attendances of weekly hold sessions of ablution and
confession to outpour what passed inside them, and above all, to
frustrate formation of and doubt and question concerning the
operations themselves.
In such an emotively moving atmosphere nobody dared to propound any
question or utter any raised doubt; any logic and challenge had to
be stifled and critics had no choice but to act in accordance with
the whole climate. One interesting point to mention, the members
were indirectly encouraged to register as volunteers for suicide
operations and apply to burn themselves to death. They also arranged
especial sessions to carry out a survey of opinions to have an
assessment of the percentage of the volunteers for the operations at
the time of Maryam’s arrest. It was important for the organization
to have an exact assessment of members’ allegiance whether to the
organization or other external factors. The sessions were organized
so cleverly that the attendants unconsciously uttered their internal
reflections. To be a volunteer of suicide operations motivated in
any form defined a high parameter for organizational promotion, but
of further importance was the degree of organizational loyalty and
commitment.
As the prerequisite for membership following the so-called
ideological revolution was preparedness for death and suicide; to
volunteer for operations worked only as a gauge of ideological,
political and organizational commitment. The decrees of organization
were the laws everybody was obliged to obey with no question; it was
the first organizational principle. In the case of the June 17, it
was a test of members’ loyalty and commitment. I remember members
who insisted to set themselves on fire at the time but the
organization somehow convinced them that their deed was of no use.
However, some were displeased of the antagonistic attitude and
sought to execute their willingness. If they succeeded, it would
question the organizational principle. Of the greater priority was
obedience and the one who set himself on fire when unauthorized by
the organization would be assessed a defiant.
Regardless of the nature of the defiance, the organization was
concerned about its generalization which could cost it irreparable
damage. In fact, all was a test of a critical article of the
ideological revolution to assess its degree of reliability in the
face of any similar crisis. We have already talked about the
articles of the ideological revolution and Rajavi’s stabilized
status as an ideological leader whose commands had to be consciously
and unquestionably obeyed.
The volunteers of self-burning first had to request permission of
Massoud and Maryam for the act, a signification of absolute
submission to leadership. Any form of disobedience, even
unauthorized suicide and sacrifice, was condemned since it could be
a possible challenge against organizational principle and had to be
strongly confronted. A practical, regular and invisible assessment
of members’ obedience, chiefly at such critical junctures, well
identified the potentiality of overcoming a crisis in the future. In
fact, it was not the multitudes of volunteers for sacrifice or the
passive but the level and amount of obedience. Of course, nobody was
aware of the real intention behind all these, otherwise the plan
failed altogether.
SFF: What was the main source to break the news of
immolations? I mean, was it important for them to be the sole
breakers of the news or quote it from other news agencies?
BS: The first channel of information was the Resistance TV
but the organization did not mind if other known news agencies
covered the news. But the problem was that all information channeled
to Ashraf were biased and direct access to original sources of
information was prohibited and was highly controlled. It was mostly
because the organization behaved in anomalous way with some media
and believed they were the mouthpiece of imperialism and the enemies
in shadow. However, some of these agencies were known to be the sole
reliable source of information and the organization could not
neglect their role in global information exchange. Wherever there
were concordance between its own news and that of the agencies, the
organization did not hesitate to blow them up to get desired
results. However, they received the least attention if their
information failed to side with the organization. BBC, for instance,
was and is one of those news agencies the organization has despised
above all, and that is why you hardly encounter any of the agency’s
news and information quoted and reflected by the organization.
Its open hostility towards BBC is based mainly on a once description
of the agency by Shamloo that has continued so far, and the
organization is really desperate what to do when the agency releases
news when it is preciously to its advantage. Suppose, BBC covers one
of Maryam’s political visits and meeting while taking an impartial
stand and no further analysis. It is an ample opportunity to grab at
and to exert the propaganda impact, but the organization shows no
direct excitement and quotes the news along with vituperative
attacks directed at BBC. In many cases, the organization applied a
clever propaganda technique and aired its own distributed
information quoted from well-known news agencies and TV networks for
greater impact and desired propaganda advantages. On the one hand,
the organization could convince the insiders of Ashraf that it was
the center of global political and media attention and on the other
hand, it took advantage of exposing its capacity as an alternative.
In fact, apart from its attempts to repel the French government, the
organization had entirely aimed to be the focus of the global media
and to influence the news headlines for some time.
It appeared that domination of the mass media was more serious than
Maryam’s release; it is a fact that can be well understood by the
amount of the reports and news reflected by the media throughout the
world. A look at the organization’s own media at that time and later
reveals that it had designated a big bulk of its propaganda space,
both cyber and non-cyber, for the reflection of the relevant issues
and news and did not spare to stick even at the trifles. The origin
of these news was often the organization itself and most often used
them quoted from other news agencies; as it benefited the effect of
media coverage on the incidents of 17 June immolations.
To be continued
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Interview with Batul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Parts
nineteen & twenty
Abuse of Neda and Sedigheh’s death
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad,
September 23, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family Foundation:
Maryam’s release was the cause for the celebrations held in Auvers
and Ashraf and we observed a variety of programs aired by
Mojahedin’s TV. The programs noticeably purported to introduce new
spirit and concepts, the performance of new dances including a
mystical dance in particular. Or magnification of signs and patterns
that significantly denoted concepts of the ideological revolution,
like that of sacrifice and devotion. What is your idea about these
programs and what ends had the organization aimed to achieve?
Batul Soltani:
I saw the programs you mentioned. To answer your question, I have to
begin with a retrospect. Although it may seem irrelevant to the
issue of self-immolations, it may explain origination and
introduction of these innovations in the organization. I remember
the first performance of Marzieh, an old Iranian diva, in Camp
Ashraf. It was really an unexpected shock. Until then, talking about
any form of music, concert and singer was a taboo. Besides, nobody
would ever think that in such an atmosphere of militarism
overwhelmed by the smell of blood, powder and gun music could be of
any use and effect. Marzieh’s presence and performance in the camp
changed the mind-set and the organization began to look at it as a
working instrument. It happened at a time when the organization had
been disarmed and members had a lot of free time since there were no
arms and, consequently, no heavy maintenance demands on them. Here,
the organization resolved to replace new vehicles to keep the very
same struggle morale among the forces. Art, an especially music,
showed an appropriately working instrument for the purpose.
On the other hand, the organization strived to display a different
profile for the West and that it had undergone a modernized change
within and without. In fact, the organization keeps a tenacious hold
on art and music to serve it for ideological instructions and to
fulfill its purpose in the very same way it utilized arms and other
means of violenve. The incidents of 17 June, self-immolations and
the subsequent death of Neda and Sediqeh was the best granted
opportunity to render the whole operation and the dead a legend
through art and particularly focuses on the mystical dance. To make
saints out of the two, art worked better and beyond any direct, long
preach and ideological lecture. Of course, these mystical programs
were exclusively performed in Camp Ashraf because of the dominant
ideological atmosphere there. Unlike Camp Ashraf, in Auvers-sur-Oise
it was the common, modern music and songs sung by Iranian Los
Angelino singers that prevailed. In France and in the midst of the
modern, world mystical dances could communicate no effect; it was
all western dances, Rock, Pop, Hard and similar music.
The Ashraf residents were the scapegoats ready to be sacrificed and
they had to be kept ideologically ready and prepared for suicide
operations. Those in the Europe were either spear carriers, who had
to be appeased, or leading rankings who, naturally, had the
responsibility of setting up the background for the victims. The art
in Ashraf was a means to enhance the sense of devotion and sacrifice
and you can explicitly notice the implied concepts in the style of
the dances, the rhythm, decoration and design. Hardly can anybody
come out without the performance having made a heavy impression on
him. In many cases, the members wished they had been in the place of
Neda and Sediqeh in self-burnings. Such an impressive climate could
not be created in any other way but through art and music and it was
the force of music to meet organizational objectives that enticed
Rajavi to change his mind, notwithstanding he cared not in the least
for the art that serves the art itself. As at the present you are
mainly focusing on the issue of immolation, I think the given
details suffice.
SFF: you restated the death of Neda and Sediqeh. Will you
please talk about the impact of their operations on the organization
from any angle you look at it?
BS: To look at it from the best angle, it was the attempt to
mythicize their death and consecrate them as saints and legendry
heroines. Multitudes of poems, elegies and songs as well as the
already mentioned mystical dances were composed and manipulated to
justify the wounded and the dead of the immolation operations and to
fashion archetypes for others to follow. Here the aesthetics of art
no further served to glorify the beauties of life but death in its
most ugly and abominable form, self-burning. The function of art was
converted here; to die for the ideals is evaluated a fair, worthy
death, but to die for an egoist who believes in no humanistic ideal
value but absolute autocracy is to become the victim of a cruel and
unfair hoax.
How they infuse these teachings into the organization is a different
discussion. In Camp Ashraf, for example, the first to enshrine them
as legendry heroines was Mozhgan Parsai. Of course, before she began
the show off, Massoud had called to eulogize them as devotees who
had proved their ideological truthfulness. Although he believed that
members had shirked their organizational responsibilities towards
Maryam, he began to extol Neda and Sediqeh and other hospitalized
members as heroes who had transcended human limits. They had
reached, he stated, the summit of selflessness where they could
easily engage themselves in feats that was hard or impossible for
others to do. The people enslaved by their selves with no bond to a
secure source of attachment would end to a wasteland while people
like Neda and Sediqeh who depended on a safe and reliable guide like
Maryam could easily brave any struggle and risk. For someone
disenchanted self-burning is a deprecated suicide while for someone
attached to a source of solace it is a spiritual act leading to
salvation. One dissolved in the leadership did everything, even
risked his life, to protect and save his/her life through any means.
Rajavi’s moralizations all came after the immolation incidents
through cassettes in which he acknowledged ten other members who had
set themselves on fire one by one. Then it was Mozhgan’s turn to
comment on Rajavi’s statements and suggested to build a monument for
the two martyred inside the camp. Thus, trough a clever pattern of
conspiracy, they produced iconic archetypes and models; they named
buildings and streets after them, made symbolic monuments, mounted
their pictures on the walls everywhere and so forth.
Sahar Family Foundation: The consequences of the 17 June
incidents were each causes for further arguments. But, let’s first
ask how long did Maryam Rajavi’s detention by the French police
last?
Batul Soltani: I cannot tell exactly, but I think nearly
twenty days altogether. But it seems one year when you consider
about what ensued from her detention. I think she was released on
July 2, 8 in the morning.
SFF: Well, after her release, what message did she
specifically deliver?
BS: She claimed that while in detention, she had prepared a
few messaged that they had prevented to be sent out, including a
videotaped message addressed to members in Europe and Ashraf
residents to cease self-immolations. It was what she said in her
first delivered speech after her release. Another consequent event
was a held celebration for freedom in Auvers in which the members of
the Leadership Council and a number of local residents of
Auvers-sur-Oise took part. She distributed flowers and made a speech
and many boys and girls chanted and danced on the street outside. We
saw all these on the TV but we had also our celebration
simultaneously inside Ashraf with the difference that the
celebrations in Auvers displayed a modern, happy and joyful
performance while in Ashraf it was more similar to a mystical-style
ritual.
To be continued
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Interview with Batul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part eighteen
Rajavi: "self-burnings were not enough, you should have sacrificed
more"
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad,
September 21, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family Foundation:
Soon after the arrest of Maryam Rajavi, Rajavi is said to have
delivered a videotaped message to Camp Ashraf. What was the message
about?
Batul Soltani: in fact, it was neither a message nor
videotaped; it was a phone call. It was directed at the
self-burnings remarking that whatever we had done through an
individual or organizational endeavor, that is, by setting ourselves
on fire and sacrificing lives at any cost, failed to be enough for
the freedom of Maryam. Interestingly, he used the expression
‘dilly-dally’ meaning that the members had dilly-dallied in June 17
self-burnings and we had to, and have to if necessary, sacrificed
much more. He was accusing members of dawdling while more than
twenty members had set themselves on fire throughout the Europe and
some were in serious condition in hospital. His words denoted that
self-burnings had to continue until Maryam would be released but at
the same time judged that the very same dilly-dally hade greatly
affected the French judicial system. Actually, he was calling for
intensification of self-burnings to achieve desired result.
I have to point out that the organization was facing serious
restrictions following Maryam’s detention; there were heavily
imposed controlling measures and further mass arrests loomed. In
fact, part of these self-burnings was considered countermeasure
activities to stop losing momentum or dismantling of the
organization in France. I mean to say that although all
self-burnings were directed for the freedom of Maryam, the
organization was concerned about the aftermath that posed a threat
and irreversible damage against the organization in France. It was
much disappointing that all rankings present in Auvers-sur-Oise were
arrested. Rajavi knew all these and his stress on extension of
self-burnings justifiably warranted the survival of the
organization. Thus, rather than appreciating the self-burning
operations, he encouraged advent of more similar efforts. It was all
about his phone call which made a profound impact on all. Although
at the time they strongly prohibited committing these suicide
operations in Camp Ashraf, Rajavi was encouraging a morality in
members and preparing them not to hesitate to engage in such
activities within Camp Ashraf whenever necessary. His call
instigated a widespread excitement among different ranks in the camp
and many volunteered for the self-burning operations. However, they
were rejected since self-burnings in the camp were of no use and
they had to be carried out just in France and before the eyes of the
western media.
SFF: What happened in Camp Ashraf after Maryam was released?
I mean how they reacted and what was its impact on the camp?
BS: Massoud made more contacts after her release, with high
rankings of the Leadership Council in particular. The first message
was mainly centered on congratulation for the achieved victory which
he said was the consequent of the members’ sacrifice. But he showed
his double face by complaining that Maryam’s confinement could have
been made shorter if we had escalated the operations in full-scale.
It seemed as if all were, and had to be, indebted to the
organization and had to make more sacrifice when commanded. I
remember him saying we should not have hesitated one hour to release
Maryam and that we could have played a more influential role in her
freedom. I believe if we had access to his phone messages to have a
reevaluation, we would find out many things that we, the separated
members, had hardly noticed at the time but can reconsider more
realistically at the present. That how can one, under any title,
allow himself to risk many lives to defy the legal measures of a
country that is investigating someone for presumably founded
allegations?
When inside the organization, we looked at these as values that had
been violated; but now in an open world where we can freely
reconsider the past, we see, alas, we had long appraised big lies as
values and had deified people who had nothing of extraordinary. It
is not at all justifiable even for great leaders of the world to
become the object of worship let alone the leader of a group whose
members never exceeded four thousand at the time. I believe Rajavi
acted so cleverly in respect to Maryam’s arrest because if the legal
actions had not been ceased by intimidating reactions for sure the
surfaced facts would lead to disbandment of the organization in
France or expulsion of all its leading ranks. That is the reason
Rajavi restructured members for prolongation of Maryam’s detention.
Less has been talked about the destiny of the organization if
Maryam’s detention continued its routine, legal process. All know
well that French police and the judiciary, because of political,
human rights, social and individual freedom causes under the
constitution, hardly ventures in such sensitive cases.
Rajavi is well aware the unfounded claims that the whole case was
the product of a political compromise between Iran and France and he
knew there were enough evidences to prove the allegations and posed
charges. The organization’s appalling reaction did shocked and
paralyzed the French police and, as it felt a responsibility to
prevent further bruise of public emotions, made it to withdraw. The
authorities had been convinced that the immolation would continue
for a year-long if they kept Maryam in custody; the awful impress on
public opinion was not something the state could tolerate. The sole
solution to end the social crisis was then to temporally set Maryam
free. You may remember the widespread hunger strikes of the
sympathizers on the banks of Auvers-sur-Oise with many strikers
collapsed here and there. Such scenes were too loathsome for the
culturally tender French to tolerate. Of course, at the time I was
not in the Europe but watched the scenes on Mojahedin TV; I think
neither in the past had France experienced such scenes nor it will
in future unless re-erected by Mojahedin there or any other European
country. The incident opened a new chapter for the West to develop a
new understanding of an organization that could so easily violate
the social and human principles by setting themselves on fire before
the eyes of the public. People could not believe that a group
warranted itself the right to breach adopted social rules for the
mere claims that could be dealt with through the legal system.
SFF: Of course, the incident granted some Western researchers
and reporters to an opportunity to conduct some research. Antoine
Gessler’s Autopsy of an Ideological Drift and or Alain Chevalerias’s
Brulé Vif (Burned Alive) for instance. Interestingly enough, as it
is typical of the organization when reacting against the opponents,
it denounced the two authors and accused them of a give and take
with the IR regime. You may have come across these accusations in
web sites.
BS: unfortunately, not yet. But I will be grateful if you
could help me have access to. It can help to fathom the aspects of
the tragedy and how they may analyze such incidents. When you come
across such human tragedies, possibly you can look back at the
backgrounds that led to the instigation of disasters that seemed
impossible to occur at the first look. But, unfortunately, we see
how easily and fast all those analyses and theories happen to be
materialized in a way that bewilders you.
SFF: You touched the point. Can you now speculate about the
extent and potentiality of such operations that the organization may
put into action when facing similar circumstances anywhere in the
world?
BS: To tell the truth, I have been convinced that nothing can
surprise me anymore. I do not intend to state that the organization
has demonstrated its ultimate potentialities, it is the nature of
the demonstrated objection, self-burning, that looks appalling and
pathetic in general. Hardly can you stay long beside the bed of a
burned man in a hospital while you may spend hours at the bed of any
other patient. Now imagine what may happen if you see people
spilling gasoline over themselves to become human torches burning
before the public.
And all for claimed rights that can be easily solved trough legal
procedures. Now imagine the extent of tragedy if the demands
necessarily fail to be legally settled and go against any logic and
impossible to grant. So, I have learned that anything is possible in
this organization and nothing may hit as unexpected. Above all, the
members have already been briefed theoretically and ideologically on
any unexpected circumstance and the only left option is to push them
into action to create a human tragedy in Camp Ashraf or any other
place.
SFF: To what degree you think it is possible that they will
prompt a human tragedy?
BS: It is really possible. You may not believe, but once
Rajavi propound the possibility and enforced it a duty for all and
even prepared the instruments to carry it out. The Camp Ashraf
residents, for instance, are equipped with cyanide capsules and
there are as plenty as gasoline and other inflammable liquids at
hand. The human tragedy was an option the organization had adopted
even in the reign of Saddam. Rajavi’s excuse is that if disclosure
of Ashraf might lead to our annihilation, then, it is better for us
to die all here inside Ashraf. His logic is that at least our death
here is for the defense of something, the organization, without
which we are the walking dead outside. Then let’s die in its defense
with a brave death. It was all stated in a meeting before the fall
of Saddam.
SFF: Thank you. There are more questions concerning Maryam’s
release, but I prefer to continue in the next session, adieu.
To be continued
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Interview with Batul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part
seventeen
Rajavi: "the operations have higher potentialities to utilize"
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad,
September 14, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family Foundation:
Ms. Soltani, the June 17 operations, however, has recorded
achievements for the organization. They can be summed up from two
aspects. One is the negative outside consequences and another is the
internal achievements the organization thought it had achieved. It
is the latter aspect that I mean you explain exclusively from
Rajavi’s point of view.
Batul Soltani: The achievements were specifically summed up
by Rajavi in one of his messages addressed to the members of the
Leadership Council. One significant point to mention here is that
Rajavi critically evaluated self-immolations as ‘dilly-dally’
meaning that the members had dwindled in June 17 self-burnings which
had diminished the expected resultant outcomes. Then he began to
enumerate the achievements of the very same ‘dilly-dally’. The first
resultant he stated to be the French police’s pullback. But I think
he meant recession of the whole judiciary of France.
I have already made clear that Rajavi’s insistence on Maryam’s
release was mainly because of the probable challenging consequences
of the case. If the case pursued a routine, legal course, the
outcome could be absolutely different. But he was clever enough not
to mention the odds and probabilities and briefly alluded to
police’s back off. In spite of the fact that efforts were directed
at releasing Maryam, Rajavi referred to it as the second
achievement. Here he paused to say that further goals had been
achieved had the volunteers been much sincere in carrying out their
operations.
SFF: Sorry for interruption. What did he mean by sincere?
BS: To tell the truth, I fail to make out an exact
connotation for the term. Maybe he wanted to say self-immolations
were deficient in number of volunteers and operations. But he would
always say that by self-burnings he intended those episodes that
would not be necessarily marginalized as pyrrhic victories and
carried with them the needed push and effect. Rajavi would say that
they knew that even multitudes of self-burnings inside Camp Ashraf
fell short of imposing needed effectiveness to score a victory; all
depended on a decision in due time and place. It was Mozhgan
(Parsai) to make decisions in Ashraf as it was Maryam in Auvers and
all senior rankings stationed in the organization’s offices
throughout the world. In fact, he was stressing on the efficiency of
actions if any responsible ranking would adopt in the sphere of his
responsibility. In general, he was not satisfied with the immediate
outcomes and believed that if the organization had less dawdled, the
existing potentials and effectiveness would have caused the
immediate release of Maryam.
SFF: Sorry again Ms. Soltani. If self-burnings were committed
all on organizational command, then, what Rajavi really meant by the
members’ dwindling that had caused deceleration of outcome?
BS: It seems that you did not consider my points. The
organization has adopted a double behavior policy vis-à-vis the
outsiders and insiders …
SFF: I got the point but I mean if 25 have committed
self-immolation on organizational command, then, the cease of the
26th means the compliance with the same very order. If it is true,
then what does this ‘dilly-dally’ mean? Does it mean that you have
been remiss in your responsibility or anything else?
BS: He mainly implied that a member of the Leadership Council
that was fully briefed on the strategy of self-immolation had to
rush to the first police station to set himself on fire immediately
after hearing the news of Maryam’s arrest. Instead, he/she had
abandoned what had to do and had put it off for the next day.
Self-burnings had to be executed immediately while they had been
postponed for a later time after arrangements. Maryam should not
have stayed so long in the prison. Rajavi was very sensitive about
the due time and place and believed that any delay contributed to
loss of a remarkable percentage of effectiveness and all efforts
proved to have been in vain. You see, although self-burnings were
organizationally arranged and ordered, there existed still factors
so Rajavi could be critical of the members and berate them for
negligence in the accomplishment of their duties. In reference to
your bringing up the number of self-burnings and that the 26th was
ceased by organizational command, I have to say that it is not as
you think. It is not at all an issue of the numbers and quantity;
they are only instruments to reach the desired outcome. Maybe that
is why Rajavi criticizes members’ hesitation to start off
self-burnings. You see, the initiation of operations share similar
origin but the pace of process and other factors influence the
acceleration and deceleration in achieving the final objectives.
To be continued
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Interview with Batul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part sixteen
Rajavi; you were derelict in performance of your duty to save Maryam
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad,
September 10, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family Foundation:
your explanations concerning the approach to carry out the June 17
immolations may indicate that ranking members like Sediqeh, Mozhgan,
Beheshteh and more have undertaken the role of an intermediary to
have the objectives of the leadership and the organization
fulfilled. That is, they provoke others and then withdraw into the
shadow or even they may directly engage themselves in the action and
sacrifice. In fact, they may either be instigators or professional
activists who engender people like Neda Hassani to be victimized.
Batul Soltani: Somehow it can be said that they play a dual
role. Some are stopped just before the attempt according to a
schematic plan and some other continue to carry out the orders to
the end and entice others to follow. Furthermore, these
intermediaries, as you call them, have a crucial role to play for
the media. Much of the success relies on the spectacular
achievements of propaganda and whatever the media are to air or
release for the public concerning an incident; anything is already
articulated and the interviewee selected. It is not so as you think
that anybody at random happens to be interviewed by the reporters.
Among the members who have set themselves on fire, for instance,
Marzieh Babakhani had been selected to talk for the media, as she
did with Algeria News Agency. Why did not they choose Hamid Orafa
for the job? Because he was not fully briefed on the whole issue and
he could make things worse. Besides, Marzieh’s deformed profile
could move people and cultivate in them what best helped
organization to take advantage of the situation. She had been
selected to be the spokeswoman for the organization and the
leadership.
On the other hand, the organization had to first adopt a clear
position vis-à-vis the victims, like Neda, and their families to
fully figure things out to serve organizational interests. Second,
the victim families’ position had to be a show of acquiescence of
what their children had done for the organization. Neda family’s
attitude had to be indicative of an unforced and arbitrary
self-burning by their daughter as a display of her commitment to the
leadership and the organization; of course, nobody could
consequently condemn the organization and fill a complaint against
it. No doubt, the family had to be fully protected financially,
emotionally and through encouraging media coverage to optimistically
demonstrate its sympathy for the organization. A good model
generated of its own vicious cunning, the protection provided for
the family, the money spent, the blood and life of a beloved
consumed, all serve to glorify the organization and the leader.
SFF: Does not it raise any question in the minds of the
members where the Nada’s family has been to suddenly become the
center of so much organizational attention?
BS: It is of no importance for the organization and Rajavi at
all. I was in England for four years and Neda’s family were also
there. There was no connection between the organization and the
family in all these years and it all happened unexpectedly.
Following Neda’s self-burning, the organization exerted much energy
to establish close contact with her family and have control over it
to persuade it act in behalf of the organization before the camera.
The founded intimacy with her parents was more a precautionary
measure to avert any unexpected decision against the organization
that could mess things up.
SFF: On the one hand the organization, as you say, tries to
demonstrate Neda’s death as the outcome of an arbitrary act of
immolation, but on the other hand seeks to glorify it within the
organization and for the media as a sacred act calling Neda a
martyr. How the contradiction is dealt with inside and outside of
the organization?
BS: I was an insider and know well that the organization
acclaimed Neda’s feat as it was organizationally decreed. The
organization’s acknowledgment of her self-immolation bordered on
idolatry because the feat was not self-induced but done in
compliance with organizational order. It made no difference what
they outside would say; the insiders were well aware of the truth.
SFF: Naturally enough, it is evident that the organization
tries to justify her feat through an appeal to appraisal of her
deed. And, of course, the insiders all know that it was
organizationally enjoined. But it is hard for the outsiders to
believe the paradox. On the one hand, Maryam claimed that
self-immolations were self-imposed and arbitrary and even accused
the French police of preventing her messages to reach outside to
stop self-burnings. But she is the first to pay tribute to her tomb
to christen her a martyr. And Massoud is the first to deliver a
message to glorify self-immolations and Neda’s act. Mojahedi’s TV
broadcasts programs and ceremonies inside Camp Ashraf to celebrate
the feats. How, then, can the organization disavow its role in these
actions? These are all evidences that approve the organization’s
pivotal role. I mean, does the organization think that it can easily
make the paradoxes acceptable for the outsiders, as it does
concerning the members?
BS: Frankly speaking, the organization is not at all
concerned about the prevalence of such contradictions outside let
alone a convincing answer. The contradictions you refer to are
absolutely natural. That is to say, if you are opposed to such
actions, then, of what use are all these propaganda? When you
idolize Neda, willingly or unwillingly, you are creating an
archetype for others to follow to overcome organizational crisis as
well as showing a way to salvation. What is of importance for the
organization is the immediate interests and advantages it gains from
these all. This is only one aspect of the issue. It is completely
different inside of the organization. Rajavi is frank and has no
fear to unveil intended achievements behind the immolations. In
answer to the question why people like Neda have to burn themselves
for Maryam, Rajavi said when thousands of people were ready to kill
themselves for (Abdullah) Ojalan, for Maryam all the organization
had to. He compared Maryam with Ojalan in a videotaped message
displayed exclusively for the members in the level of Leadership
Council. He said nobody condemned neither the organizers and
instigators of the mass suicide for Ojalan or Ojalan himself. In his
message, Rajavi referred to at least 25 cases of immolations; he was
displeased as he believed the members were indebted to Maryam and
had not done all they had to.
He would say we had failed to do billionth of what we should have
done for Maryam and that, it was Maryam who had suffered and
shouldered all hardships. That is how they behave inside the
organization. For the outside, it is not necessary to be privy of
the details of the inside and the routine is to arrange a pattern
not to embroil itself in any row or court case. The responsibility
is thoroughly laid on the self-burners themselves.
SFF: forgive my interruption Ms. Soltani, are your
explanations excerpts from the very Rajavi’s message delivered from
the hideout?
BS: Yes, they are. They are parts of his message delivered
for the Leadership Council from his hideout.
To be continued
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Interview with Batul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part fifteen
The manipulated approach to spur immolations
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad,
September 07, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family Foundation:
Ms. Soltani, you averred that the reaction of the members of the
Leadership Council to Maryam’s arrest was a histrionic rather than
genuine; a mixture of pretense, sincerity, and the agitated
atmosphere that made quite an impression on the audience. Then, it
becomes clear that in spite of the created flutter following the
news of Maryam’s arrest, the shown sentiments lacked the needed
depth and most were imitating and role playing feelings. In such an
abrupt outpour of emotions, it won’t be surprising to see a senior
member, excited and impressed by the atmosphere, set himself on
fire. Imagine what would have been the effect on the lower ranks.
Now my question is what process had it to follow to convince and
instigate others to practically engage in self-immolations, peoples
like Neda, Marzieh and many others. Of course, even Rajavi himself
knew well that there was no rationale for such practices and maybe
laughed at the simplicity of the suicide. The question is what were
the factors that forced these emotionally grounded outbursts into
action and what role did the organization play as the motivator? And
how these ostensibly arbitrary actions could be tallied with their
concretely orchestrated nature as a show of strong commitment?
Batul Soltani: It is a little hard to analyze the case. I
mean, we cannot precisely decide about the motives and their
classification. In one point, it is a matter of strong commitment
among the high ranking members, that is, their step by step
education to reach a point where you may call it transmutation, I
call it commitment, but in organizational teachings they call it
‘unification point’ or identification of within and without. We have
already talked about the sophisticated psychological techniques
cults manipulate for coercive persuasion or thought reform of the
insiders. There are so many cults that have professionalized their
approaches and techniques of persuasion as you can well trace in
Al-Qaeda. But I think it is much more complicated when we talk about
the organization since it utilizes a combination of techniques just
in the same way that its ideology is eclectic.
However, the organizational preparedness of volunteers cannot be
disregarded. They are people who can be said to have reached a point
of selflessness. They have been trained to do whatever they have
been imbued with. Some of them may have reached top echelons through
a cunning role playing but the majority has succeeded to convince
seniors about their truthfulness of actions and intentions. Some are
really nasty with repulsive behavior; they may even pass over their
most beloved to prove their loyalty and commitment. These are the
main actors of the case we are talking about and, consequently, the
lower ranks are mostly impressed by the ideas they impregnate them
with. Let’s return to concrete aspects of your question.
I assure you that if what happened in France was to happen inside
Camp Ashraf. Mozhgan (Parsai) would be the first to take a gallon of
gasoline to run towards Americans. Have no doubts that even me, who
was skeptical of the whole issue, would follow her with another gal.
Logically enough, other chief rankings would catch her to avert her
act of immolation. But the story would not end here because her move
had already agitated some in hot pursuit whom nobody came to stop
and you could soon see human torches running around. It is a general
formula within the organization and it makes no difference where the
scenario is to be put into practice, in Ashraf, Auvers, or any other
part of the world.
I have no doubt that in Paris’s immolations seven or eight seniors
like Mozhgan had rushed to set themselves on fire. These are
professional starters whose main role, as I explained, is to provoke
others to follow. The members who set themselves on fire, like
Marzieh Babakhani, Sediqeh Mojaveri and Muhammad Sani, were ranking
members who had followed the professional starters who in turn had
been stopped mid-way while the others went on to finish the job.
None of these people, including those I named, immolated on
arbitrary decisions and I am sure they had been fully briefed on the
operations they had been chosen to carry out in the headquarters of
Paris and London; they dad been fully crosschecked in a process of
mood-altering program and relevant ideological commitment to
leadership to avert any antagonistic attitude that might cause them
to shrink from fulfilling the mission. To tell the truth, I closely
knew Marzieh Babakhani; she was, I beg your pardon for using such
terms, a real charlatan and quarrelsome who indeed played a key role
to provoke others and charge the atmosphere with sentiments that
could easily be a trigger for action.
Indeed, she played the very same role as Mozhgan, or Beheshteh
Shadroo and other similar rankings under Rajavi’s direct command
could have in the Camp Ashraf. I have no doubt that one or two of
these seniors rushed into the street towards the Police with gallons
of gasoline in hand; naturally sub-rankings like Neda (Hassani) and
others dashed after them. On the way, the forerunner ranking,
suppose she was Beheshteh Shadroo, received a message ordering her
to return since she had no right to set herself on fire. It is a
general process within the organization with numerous examples to
spotlight. The scenario might be planned to be played either for
immolations or other disciplinary cases.
For instance, one had to be rebuked and scolded before other members
in a general meeting. While he was speaking, one like Abbas Davary,
who had already been assigned for the purpose, started to assail him
and yell at him. A few other members automatically stood to join
Davary as assailants. Here, Davari’s mission was over and he would
sit down to let others continue. Most of the time, those who got
involved in the assail had no real reason for what they were doing;
the only thing they knew was that they had to enthusiastically
continue along with the others in the raised fuss. In such an
agitated climate, all tried to conform and hardly anyone opted to
remain passive. It is the same scenario put into practice in the
pattern of self-immolations; one senior starts and sub-rankings
hurry after to take their opportunity of displaying commitment. They
are the real victims who may be unaware of the good reason for what
they are doing.
The organization sees no reason to brief victims on what they have
to be sacrificed for. Only the seniors and those who are the leading
starters receive the appropriate trainings and instructions
concerning safeguarding the interests of the organization and
leadership. They are trained how to start and provoke others to
continue with the mentality of injustice imposed on the organization
and a due responsibility to stand up for restoration of justice. The
members never receive similar trainings in the organization. Marzieh
Babakhani and I were both in offices in London and members of the
Leadership Council but with different ranking status; there was a
body called the Leadership Council but with a variety of
hierarchical levels and what promoted members was the degree of
their devotion and commitment to the leadership. Sediqeh Husseini
and I were simultaneously announced as the members of the Leadership
Council but soon she was promoted to first secretary while I had
made no advance to upper organizational ranking as I failed to
follow her in growing the sense of commitment. They know on whom
they invest for the critical situation as she did set herself on
fire when the time came.
This is through such approaches that the organization prepares to
counteract impending crisis. The death of Neda Hassani as a result
of her self-immolation was the outcome of an abrupt emotional burst
to rush after a catalyst who was never intended to commit the
suicide. Look at Neda’s age, education and depth of her political
background. She fails to be qualified and experienced enough to be
included in the circle of senior rankings; she belongs to the class
of the victims who was stirred into action just in the middle of an
agitated climate to display her so-called commitment to the
leadership.
It is in total contrast with what the organization usually
advertizes for the public outside to boast about the rank and file
and sub-rankings as the main body whose decision runs the main
policy of the organization and affects the leadership’s decision
makings. As Rajavi rudely put the responsibility of his
egocentrically initiated armed phase on the members and claimed that
it was the members who convinced the leader to adopt an inevitable
decision. Or when they referred to Ahmad Rezai’s suicide operation
whenever talking for the rank and file, they intended to instill
into them he was a leading ranking who had committed suicide to
become an archetype for lower ranks to follow. The adopted approach
has undergone a qualitative change through the years but the mindset
of sacrificing for the survival of the organization and safeguarding
the interests of the leadership have been increasingly fortified.
To be continued
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Interview with Batul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part fourteen
Rajavi said: self-immolations forces French authorities to withdraw
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad,
September 04, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family Foundation:
Ms. Soltani, we intend to have a discourse on the issue of
self-immolations in June 17, 2003. My first question is under what
motives and ends were these incidents broached within the
organization?
Batul Soltani:
I was not present in the Europe at this phase, but the question was
that the members’ main responsibility to repel the direct threat
posed against the leadership’s interests was to make sacrifice in
any possible way and degree.
SFF:
I mean, through what clear process did the organization conduct such
feats and what were the targets it directly aimed at?
BS:
The main objective was to release Maryam Rajavi as fast as possible
but hardly had they thought of possible controversial consequences
of such operations. In the higher echelons there might have been a
different analysis and conjectures concerning the incidents but in
our membership level the stress was on the acceleration of Maryam’s
release.
SFF:
Maybe I have failed to properly phrase my purpose. So I phrase it
anew with an explanation. The motives behind these self-immolations
are a matter of dispute. It can be looked upon as a reaction against
the leadership’s sacrilege. Or it can be a matter of infringing
regulations, that is to say, if Maryam Rajavi’s case was to follow a
legal process, especially with concern to the charges against her,
she had to face legal trials and the consequent verdicts of
punishments. Looking it from this aspect, could these anti-social
deeds be challenging and charging Maryam Azodanloo with further
allegations and their irreparable consequences? If you remember,
prior to this session, you had a reference to Rajavi’s best position
taking concerning Maryam’s arrest and explained that her arrest
could have serious legal outcomes for her and the headquarters in
Auvers-sur-Oise. Your reference to these deeds was from a
precautionary point of view. The motives behind these
self-immolations were only a reaction against the sacrilege to the
leadership or coverage for allegations such as laundry, plot against
the opponents and other charges of her case? Will you explain if in
their inter-organizational analysis the issue was discussed from
this aspect?
BS:
What they mainly focused on in the organization was the very aspect
of the leadership’s sacredness and that we had to do our best to
force French judiciary into withdrawing or at least baffle their
attempts to take serious decisions. Thus, it can be concluded that
their principal objective was aftereffects of the arrest. If you may
ask for the cause, the organization has already an experience of
Rajavi’s expulsion from France. It happened at a time when Rajavi
had resolved to join hands with Saddam and make an alliance. That
is, the organization had prepared a de facto background to settle if
expelled from France. Of course, there is also a possibility that
France’s decision to expel Rajavi was in line of his own volition to
leave France. That is why he showed the slightest resistance with
the excuse that Iran and France had reached a compromise on his
expulsion.
Naturally, when the expulsion by itself helped to actualize general
objectives of the organization, it was in no way rational to show
reactions like that of the 17 June immolations. Of course, such
operations were on the agenda at that time but Rajavi had resolved
on a willing decision to leave. But in the case of Maryam it was
totally different; Camp Ashraf was no more a stable bastion to
settle and her chance of relocation to Iraq had sank to zero.
Furthermore, the strategy of the organization was to keep her in the
Auvers and to fortify the new bastion there with her as the leader
of a pro-democratic and counter-fundamentalist opposition.
Naturally, accomplishment of such objectives required a timely
decision and reaction. Just as the organization thought France was
cozy up to her settlement there she was arrested on many charges
that not only seemed to be a violation of the leadership’s
sacredness but also could in itself lead to unpredicted
consequences; she could even be possibly tried and expelled from
France. There had to be taken a calculated risk since the
organization lacked a brain at the top; one leader was absent and
the other was arrested.
The immolations were the sole option to overcome the crisis, call it
a reaction against violation of Maryam’s sanctity or anything else.
What the organization needed at that critical moment was to strip
members of their capacity for rational activity because it could not
preach for them about the legal adverse consequences of Maryam’s
apprehension. Then, what had to be done? It is already instilled
into them to react whenever the leadership’s sanctity happens to
come under direct violation regardless of any regulations they have
to submit in the country wherein they are living. The sole goal
becomes to release Maryam and they have nothing to do with the legal
and illegal aspects of her arrest. The immolations were blind
operation that could either aggravate the crisis or temporally tone
it down.
It was all outside reflections. As soon as Maryam was arrested,
Mozhgan Parsai held an extraordinary meeting in Camp Ashraf and
announced that Massoud had delivered a message to inform the arrest
of Maryam and a number of other rankings in France. The squall among
the members of the Leadership Council disturbed the meeting but
Mozhgan continued reading Massoud’s message saying he had insisted
that for the release of Maryam, even one hour sooner, all the
interests of the organization throughout the world, all its
possessions and all the members failed to be enough to be set on
fire. It was the reflection of her arrest inside Camp Ashraf. That
is why I insist that the organization tried to keep the sacredness
of the leadership infringed since it could easily stir the emotions
if the sanctity was proclaimed to have been violated. As it was a
question of the survival of the organization, leadership and
ideology, Mozhgan persisted on emotional aspects of the issue to be
magnified for the rank and file. She ended the meeting by saying we
were all in our organizational preparedness.
SFF:
What did she mean by organizational preparedness?
BS:
Nothing in particular. It was only an emphasis on the normalization
of the relations among the present members of the Leadership Council
and that, all had to behave normally when encountering the lower
ranks to pretend nothing serious had occurred. The mixed up
appearance of the rankings, swollen red eyes and disorderly hair,
could disturb and lower the rank and file’s morale.
SFF:
How sincere do you think were the ranks in their emotional
reactions?
BS:
For Me, it was not sincerely at all. At that moment I had my own
doubts. Among the members of the Leadership Council were those who
had volunteered to set themselves on fire before Americans, but I
believe it was nothing more than a histrionic behavior and there is
no clear evidence to say if they were truthful in what they showed.
In some cases, it was genuine emotions mixed with insincerity that
had their impact on the others to create a homogeneous unity.
To be continued
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Interview with Batul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part thirteen
Rajavi’s interpretation of the holy and foul suicide
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad, August 23, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family Foundation:
Ms. Soltani, in our last session, you mainly focused on theoretic
and tenable aspects of suicide operations. Your explanations were
nice but it would be much better if you elucidate the practical
instances of suicides and self-immolations you have personally
witnessed. There are reports of some cases committed for a variety
of reasons. I mean how Rajavi reacted to these acts and analyzed
them. Your explanations will shed light on ambiguities especially if
the names of the victims are mentioned.
Batul Soltani:
Well, many of these cases can be found happened within the
organization. In many cases Rajavi exclusively referred to some
instances as proofs when trying to inoculate his mentalities. Of
course, as I have already pointed out, such discourses were held
only in the meetings of the Leadership Council and never leaked out.
Bear it in mind that he never intended to compare anything with the
opponent side or infer anything from these instances of suicide when
referring to them. It was an issue discussed within the
organizational sphere and, of course, deductions were generally
related to internal relations. The main focus was differentiating
between the holy and sinful kinds of suicide with the emphasis on
romanticizing the suicide and describing it as a noble act which
Rajavi theorized according to his interpretations.
I have to point out that some of these suicides were committed just
following these meetings like the suicide done by Mehri Moussavi
just as some had been recorded before. Of the significance was his
skill in presenting examples that could well help to differentiate
between the two, that is to say, the presented standards and
motivations, which the ranking members were well aware of, behind
these suicides could well help to identify whether it was esteemed a
holy suicide for the cause of the leader and interests of the
organization or despised a sinful suicide for individual weaknesses,
flaws and ambitions. Of the suicides that offended Rajavi and made
him erupt furiously to hold consequent lengthy meeting with the
members of the Leadership Council was the suicide committed by Kamal
Haddadi long after the beginning of these discourses. He was a
ranking member of the Central Council and that was the cause for
Rajavi to be sensitive about the incident.
A look at the list of the members of the Central Council at the
time, dissolved after the initiation of the ideological revolution,
indicate that he was a ranking commander deposed of his
responsibility after the ideological revolution. The emphasis on him
as an officer of high ranking is to know how Rajavi degraded such
people when treating them for organizational concerns. Kamal was
reported to have established a relation with a woman under his
command. The relation could be any organizationally unauthorized
relation regardless of being ideological, emotional, moral or even a
love affair. They said it was a love affair and the case was sent to
Rajavi and Maryam to be dealt with. At the time Rajavi was stationed
in Camp Parsian. Before transferring Kamal to Camp Parsian, Mahvash
Sepehri began further investigation of the case and put Kamal in a
prison cell called ‘Bangal’, an isolated, solitary confinement where
they kept the culpable to be judged. She pressed him with
recriminations and accused him of immoral relations with the woman.
So harsh and disdainfully she treated Kamal that he could easily
anticipate what awaited him before Rajavi. He could tolerate no more
and committed suicide in his cell.
At the time, I was a ranking deputy in the Leadership Council and
was present in the meetings particularly dealing with such cases. I
remember the first words stated by Rajavi concerning Kamal’s
suicide. He was much enraged by Kamal’s act and said he threw his
corpse on the leadership’s table. I have to point out that Kamal’s
suicide was never mentioned among the rank and file who thought he
had died of a natural death. But all the members of the Leadership
Council knew that he had died of psychological pressures impressed
by Sepehri. In the very same meeting, Rajavi appreciated Sepehri and
said Kamal deserved to be treated so contemptibly and unworthy way
to commit suicide. Rajavi never mentioned anything about ideological
deviation that could have affected Kamal because it could raise
questions. Kamal was shown to have no ideological problem and that
he had chosen his path rightfully; his death had to be looked and
analyzed from a different angle to preserve the good image of the
organization.
What Rajavi depicted was so easy to perceive. Among the members are
those who set themselves on fire for the sake of the organization
and leader’s interests; in contrast, some others commit suicide for
deviant, immoral causes and threw their corpses on the table before
the leader. Then he compared the different motivations behind the
two acts. Those who committed suicide for selfish causes not only
committed sin but also led the organization to the midst of a big
problem hard to deal with. The former suicides solved a problem in
the course of accomplishing a holy cause while the latter suicides
burdened problems on the shoulder of the leader. People from each
group lose their lives on their own but it is the contradictory
motives that decides who is blessed or condemned; the former has
succeeded to release himself of his own self to become selfless and
attach to an ideological source without; the latter is a slave of
his own self and is reluctant to discharge introspections in the
arranged weekly ablution sessions to clean his inside.
Taking opportunity of Kamal’s case to illustrate intended motives of
suicide, Rajavi presupposed that following the US invasion, the
destiny of Mojahedin would be vague. We would be dispersed and sent
to different parts of the world; a group to Iran, another to France,
America or any other place. In that case, could we possibly carry
the potentiality of being a mobile bomb ready to detonate to
safeguard the interests of the leadership? To ideologically justify
the suicide operations, he again referred to Kamal’s case and other
similar cases of suicide for personal motivations; one killing
himself for sexual impulses, another disappointed, flawed and
depressed, and Kamal Haddadi who was in contradiction with himself
and failed to appear before other members to confess his sins and
purge him. None of them, he said, had committed suicide for the sake
of leader and their attachment to him. No status and value could be
so noble as compared to that of setting oneself on fire for the
leadership and Maryam.
Although motives for suicide varied, what differentiated between the
individual and ideological motives, the former described as a sin in
the Quran and the latter romanticized and glorified for
organizational causes, was the pivotal point where one’s self met
and attached itself with that of the leader who well directed the
act onto the right path. It was no more suicide but martyrdom and
even exceeded it in value. To give further explanation, he said;
consider in this very moment something suddenly threatens my life as
your leader. One of you may imagine that the threat is removed if
you set yourself on fire. In his opinion, the suicide had committed
a sin in risking his life to save the leader because the act was
non-ideological and performed under no command by the leader; the
suicide was now a foul corpse cast before the leader.
It was one of the instances Rajavi delineated and formulated the
ideological suicide that differentiated it with a foul and sinful
one; the holy suicide has to be performed only and purely by the
permission and the command of the leader, otherwise it will be
considered a big sin the ideological motives have spurred it. Thus,
it can be concluded that the 17 June self-immolations, in contrast
to Maryam Rajavi’s rejection to be instigated by the organization,
were organizationally planned and orchestrated and approved by the
leadership. None of the volunteers set themselves on fire entirely
of their own volition; their acts to be esteemed holy, they had to
follow the decree and command of the leadership. Does it mean
anything else when they glorified the acts of Neda (Hassani) and
Marzeh (Mojaveri), both died of the burning injuries, as holy feats?
Their self-immolation before anything indicated the degree of their
loyalty and submission to the leadership. These instances along with
Rajavi’s ideological interpretation as well as his reference to the
Quran as a subterfuge to justify his egocentric ambitions may lead
us to the bottom of truth.
To be continued
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Memoirs of Ms. Batul Soltani – Final Part
Rajavi's passion for women and his ambition for
leadership
By: Sahar
Family Foundation
Translated by:
Nejat Society
September 02 2009
When the so called detachment between women and Rajavi was removed,
they were completely comfortable to speak about any sort of problem
in the meetings. In fact, the ease in the relationships was the
outcome of those arguments made by Maryam about “traditional woman
“or “woman in quotation marks”. Massoud Rajavi never limited himself
to present any sort of problem. Even before marrying every woman in
the leadership council, he was always relaxed to ask his questions
or to convey his arguments in a manner he desired.
Even where there were some reports on immoral relationships in
various levels of the organization, he simply asked detailed
questions to know what he needed to know. He asked our opinion and
what we knew about that immoral relationship. He never felt shameful
among the members in every level of MKO to seek the details. He was
totally open in his relations and behaviors.
Among the members, there were some people who left meetings after
such cases were presented. It is worth knowing that Massoud’s
reaction was so humiliating. He called them "peasants" or “mullahs”.
Maryam also accused them of being superficial or reactionary.
Despite these reactions there were others who stood up and asked why
they are saying so and that was not their problem. Thus they faced
the case from a superior position. After some time gradually those
so called "peasants" became relaxed in the meetings due to the
process the leaders used in order to despise them.
As a matter of fact, those justification meetings lasted for around
a hundred hours in order to achieve the desired result. The problem
cannot be solved in a short-term meeting.
During the meetings some of the members protest, they leave the hall
to think outside, and then they get back saying that they were
wrong. They explain their reaction towards that case. The leader
asks them what their problem is. They confess that they got angry
regarding the discussed case.
To justify their reaction, Rajavi says that these thoughts are the
remaining of the reactionary traditional thoughts of Mullahs. He
relates the protests to different things and finally accuses the
person of being under the influence of her ex-husband and then he
concludes that “she hasn’t actually divorced her husband; her
divorce is not a real one! She is basically problematic and that is
why she doesn’t attend the meeting. She has to start from the
beginning.” Such arguments sometimes last for up to one to two
hundred hours.
I think Rajavi stands on two virtual legs: One is his passion for
women and the other is his ambition for leadership. These traits
lead him to a totalitarian, power seeking personality.
I think he is able to achieve his ambitions using these two aspects
of his personality. He is definitely capable of using them. I’ve
already explained that he cannot bear the presence of a man among
his so called leadership council. This certifies that he has a
psychological problem. In a wide echelon (the leadership council) he
gathers his passion for women with his ambition for leadership to
accomplish what he wants.
Rajavi believes that a woman works more obediently than a man. He
thinks that when he orders a man to do a job, he may ask why, but a
woman never asks questions about the demands, she would immediately
execute the order. And that’s exactly what Rajavi wants. This is the
potential that he cannot see in his male members. What matters to
him is that who the best to achieve his goals is. Comparing men with
women, Rajavi believes that women are different phenomena whom he
can invest on.
I think this approach has a very basic role and makes good tools to
achieve further objectives.
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Memoirs of Ms. Batoul Soltani – Part 22
Massoud asked arrogantly: "Does anyone claim to
have a husband other than me?"
By: Sahar
Family Foundation
Translated by: Nejat Society
August 25 2009
The members of the Leadership Council were convinced to marry the
leader with the reasoning and logics that Maryam and Massoud gave
them. They may simply be convinced due to the way Maryam viewed
them. She had already spoken to the members in a humiliating manner
in order to make sure that they would be persuaded that “ideological
marriages are superior to normal marriages”!
This reasoning recalls Surdell’s dialectic that says:” to escape
from humbleness, the individuals have to shelter before the one who
humiliates them. Therefore, the relationship between leaders and
members was managed in a way that the justifications were easily
accepted. I would like to note some justifications Maryam and
Massoud made to convince us.
In order to convince us to marry him, Massoud Rajavi said in a
meeting: “if the peak of sexual marriage is 10, then the peak of
ideological marriage will be one thousand. Imagine that you are in a
hall with a very high ceiling, if you are under a table, the top
side of the table will be the peak of an ordinary marriage which
signifies a wife-husband relationship, but the ceiling of the hall
will be the peak of an ideological ideal relationship. Your mind is
filled with old thoughts; you think that I am stranger to you, so
you are not comfortable with me. Now that we want to remove this
obstacle and we want to remove the quotation marks from the women,
we use this scheme.” According to the leaders of MKO, “Women in
quotation marks” (cult jargon) signifies women who have grown up in
an ordinary society with normal regulations ruling it. They meant
the traditional weak women.
Maryam Rajavi tried to degrade the traditional women who “are always
owned by their husband.” She insisted that we were still in that
situation and we didn’t pass over those old thoughts.
Naturally, we tried to remove that humiliating view from ourselves.
The leaders looked dawn on us so we accepted everything they said.
They always tried to make us doubt our individuality. If we were not
able to present a case about one of our minor colleagues, Maryam
would punish us. She accused us of distancing ourselves from
Massoud. Then she concluded that the problem comes from our
thinking. I could never convince myself to accept their
justification from the bottom of my heart.
Maryam accused us of having a reactionary mind that motivated us to
feel a distance between Massoud and ourselves. Then she concluded
that in order to remove this distance, we should marry him. She made
us believe that we never had the right to have another husband. Then
in the meeting Massoud asked us arrogantly: "Does anyone claim to
have a husband other than me?"
Then he added “if anyone feels she belongs to her ex-husband for the
least part, she should get out of the room.”
In fact, with his reasoning, Massoud convinced the members that he
sacrificed himself to release the women from the old, traditional,
reactionary thoughts that always exploited women in the history.
In MEK, the leaders try to make you believe that Massoud Rajavi is
the only one who is always ready for change and revolution; the only
one who scarifies himself to solve others’ contradictions; he is the
only one who accepts every responsibility. Therefore he is not an
ordinary man! This is what the organization makes us to believe.
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An interview with Batool Soltani on MKO self-immolations -
Part twelve
Weekly sessions, a process to secure obedience to
Rajavi
By: Sahar
Family Foundation
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
August 24 2009
Sahar Family Foundation: Ms, Soltani, you pointed out
something interesting concerning the mechanism of suicide operations
and self-immolations, that is, how easily one can carry out these
organizationally inculcated operations just by making a liaison with
a point out of one’s own self. That is, one overruns his
individuality and will for a greater cause crystallized in another
person called leader. The logic, regardless of its justifiably
luring virtue, does not end here because any thought and attitude
can easily justify itself through such a logic. That is true about
many adherents of cults who do anything for the guru, preaching
right or wrong notwithstanding. Following such logic, any group can
claim to be rightfully on the right path and it has nothing to do at
all with the nature of the source of liaison. There were people on
the side of Yazid (a reference to a historical event when the army
of Yazid massacred all forces on the side of Imam Hussein, the third
Shi’it imam) who had accepted the leadership of Yazid and fought
against Imam Hussein with a gesture of goodwill and for the sake of
God. Is it right to say that liaison with a source of leadership
justifies a truth? If so, there are many antitheses to discuss. Was
there any opportunity to discuss these discrepancies and what were
Rajavi’s responses?
Batool Soltani: Indeed there were many controversies and, of
course, Rajavi insisted that the members of the Leadership Council
take their time to solve any ambiguity and raised question. But his
answer to these ambiguities was that first it had to be discovered
why people had joined the side of the wrong. He insisted on
recognition of what had motivated them to join. There was no
question if they had joined for worldly and ambitious causes but it
was different if they were fighting on the wrong front for the cause
of truth. Then it turned to be a matter of the ideologically
polluted system of the opposite front. He mainly focused on the
polluted ideology of the followers of the opposite front. He gave
example of the operation Eternal Light saying that we would call our
killed forces martyrs as did the Islamic Republic and strongly
contradicted its claims to be on the right path; he believed that
the IR had deceived and misled who had come to confront the rightful
Mojahedin’s forces. The IR forces had not erred in attaching
themselves to the IR leadership but it was the wrong ideology that
had misled them.
SFF: Then it was not totally a matter of ambitions since they
too fought for ideological causes and had attached themselves to
someone out of their own self.
BS: That is why he would say they had ideologically been
misled and anybody following Khomein’s ideology failed to be
accounted as our forces who could never be ideologically affiliated
with the regime. None of the either sides could possibly agree on
the oriented ideology of the opponent, but there were those who
walked a middle path and dodged seeing their interests in danger. He
would call them compromisers who never walked in a fixed front and
changed their position whenever sensed danger from any side. Thos
who shunned, for example, committing suicide or self-immolation when
it was necessary belonged to this very same group. They are people
of ambitions and opportunists who are enslaved by their whims and
avarice and infiltrate into both sides to fill their pack and have
nothing to do at all with the ideology and the leadership. In fact,
he believed, they were attached to nobody but themselves while the
real forces adherent to either ideology resisted to the end and
never changed their positions.
Those who stood on Rajavi’s side were known to be the true believers
of a right ideology while the others on the opposite front were
perverted and aberrant. He would adduced the Quran as his proof for
his theory and would say the Quran classifies people into four
groups; the righteous, the martyrs, the faithful and the prophets.
Nothing was to be told about the last group that was an exception.
One way to recognize the sincere who assented to commit suicide
operations was to see his frequent attendances of weekly hold
sessions of ablution and confession*. It was the recognized boundary
between the true ideological believers and the opportunists. It was
Rajavi’s instructions preached in the meetings of the members of the
Leadership Council and insisted that those who refused and dodged to
attend weekly sessions of cleansing and confession would certainly
stop midway in the path of struggle while others, who attended
sessions, continued to the end.
These instructions were all included in the especial book prepared
by himself for the members of the Leadership Council who had to
attend weekly sessions as well to prove their sincerity. He would
call the weekly ablutions a ‘great crusade’ through which one could
unite his within with without and dared to outpour all
counter-values that hindered when the time came to sacrifice to
defend the leader and his interests. These were the faithful who had
even outstripped the martyrs, that is what he believed in. There
were sympathizers who came to take part in the demonstrations and
would donate sums of money to help but never risked their life in
practical struggle. They were the righteous but still lagged far
behind the martyrs. Unlike them, the faithful risked their life
anywhere in the world just to defend and safeguard the interests of
the leadership by setting themselves on fire. They outshined the
martyrs.
Now, what was the touchstone to distinguish them? They could be
recognized in the frequency of taking part in the weekly sessions of
ablution and who cleaned their selves by pouring out what was
passing within them; their personal penchants, lust, insincere
tendencies, and whatever hindered them to be unified with Rajavi.
The ones that merged with Rajavi made no attempt to conceal anything
from him and if they had to, it was a matter of submission to his
order. Nothing could come between them and the leader and they had
fused into one. No doubt, such devoted people never disappointed
their leader when the time came to commit suicide and set themselves
on fire. Thus, this is an answer to existing contradiction within
Rajavi’s system. But I can give more details to resolve these
contradictions. I think Rajavi followed a model that he had
theorized in its most extreme form.
At times in inter-organizational relations and meetings, Rajavi
would decry the idea of being touched by Khomeini. He meant that we
should not do things to be afraid of being condemned of following
the models and ideological guidelines of Ayatollah Khomeini. But
then it changed. Rajavi resolved that his relation with the members
and sympathizers had to be set on such pattern that was further
explained in a speech by Mehdi Abrishamchi. What he said in general
was that the organization should have no reluctance in abandoning
fears of condemnation and following a pattern in its struggle to
topple the regime. The best pattern at hand he recommended to adhere
to and practice within the organization was Ayatollah Khomein’s
relation with his followers, mainly founded on people’s compliance
with him. Of course, they disregarded his charismatic influence on
his followers that goes far beyond ordinary logic or self-interest
and since Rajavi failed to understand and explain such devotional
relationship, he tried to interpret it within the terms like
detachment from the self and attaching to a source without; that is,
the members have to be completely devoted to their leader and
prepared to do anything he commands- even kill others, or
themselves.
The more the time passed, the more he was obsessed with plans to
become a magnet to draw devoted members and insisted to exactly,
even if forcibly, accomplish the pattern he was holding onto. He was
merging the principle of guidance with its authoritative aspects and
opportunism to create a holy man of himself called the ideological
leader. He dissolved all those assemblies and bodies whose role was
to supervise the leadership and became the egocentric leader and
center of all decision makings and identical to nobody in the modern
world; a morally, ideologically and politically infallible leader
who was even exceeding the pattern he had chosen. Thus, he became a
leader from whom even the ideology drew its legitimacy.
To be continued
* According to a recently published official report by RAND, the
MeK holds daily, weekly, and monthly “sessions” that involve forced
public confessions aimed at expelling deviant thoughts and behaviors
that are believed to undermine group coherence. MeK members are
required to keep daily records of their thoughts and nighttime
dreams, particularly sexual thoughts and desires (which are, of
course, forbidden), as well as observations about their fellow
members. They must submit their journals to their supervisors.
During large meetings, members often are forced to read their
reports aloud and to make self-critical statements. MeK members are
often required to admit to sexual thoughts.
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An interview with Batool Soltani on MKO self-immolations -
Part eleven
Rajavi’s leadership, the criterion to legitimize
the ideology
By: Sahar
Family Foundation
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
August 22 2009
Sahar Family Foundation: We continue with the question, in all aspects of the
discussed suicide operations, what were the ideological foundations
and historical backgrounds that theorized and justified application
of such operations? Were there any reliable historical facts to
refer to or Rajavi relied only on his own inferences to justify such
deeds? As Rajavi usually theorizes anything before putting it into
action, it has to be necessarily true in this case as well. I
believe these are key issues, hardly discussed in detail, to help
develop a better understanding of such reprehensibly ideological
mannerism. So I think you can better disclose untold aspects since
you have been so close to the nucleus of decision makings.
Batool Soltani: Naturally, as they stated, anything was
founded on and done according to a series of presented
justifications. That is to say, any resolution had to be justifiably
fitted in an ideological apparatus to be practically conceivable. I
myself believe that we cannot possibly develop an understanding of
the mechanisms that are products of an egocentric will, and in many
cases self-instigated, unless we can well analyze fundamental
principles. Concerning your question, I will give some details of
what I have observed in the different levels and in the level of the
Leadership Council in particular.
Regardless of many subjects already discussed, once in 2002 we had a
long discourse on the subject you broached. I have to point out that
there was a especial book of the Leadership Council wherein you
could find the questions, duties and responsibilities of the members
of the Leadership Council. Particularly, an article exclusively
concerned the subject. Of course, the book was only circulating
among the members of the Leadership Council and none of the lower
ranks were permitted to touch it. It was exclusively edited for the
members of the Leadership Council and would be also referred to as
“the Book of Guidance”. The book contained extended degrees of
responsibilities as well as the limitations and whatever was
considered to be an act of sin. In one of the meetings of the
Leadership Council it was enthusiastically debated about the
mentioned subject and the historical backgrounds of the suicide
operation. In his speech Rajavi underlined that the act of suicide
in itself was a big sin and homicide in Islamic teachings. He would
say if according to Quran suicide was known to be a big sin then,
why we were stressing on suicide and related operations as a working
approach. Of course, it was before the widespread self-immolations
of June 17.
He would continue focusing on the point that while it was a big sin
then, why we took advantage of it for organizational interests and
to defend Ashraf. In answer to his own raised question some stood to
justify that the suicides were ideologically rooted and done for
organizational and revolutionary interests that eventually
benefitted masses. He taunted them all about whatever they thought
to be serious remarks. He explained that it was all beyond our
understanding since we lacked the sound political-ideological
capacity needed to reach the accurate answer. The rationalized
answer to his own posed question was that in all the wars and
battles to which the prophets and imams dispatched their disciples
to and also the armed struggle the organization was engaged in some
people were inevitably killed. Then, was there any difference
between the former warriors called martyrs and the latter combatants
killed in the course of suicide operations? Both of the groups he
explained to be of help to their leaders to carry out their
responsibilities to affect their societies and the revolution they
led. He meant that there was no difference between the two groups
since both were killed in a battlefront to which they had been
dispatched by the order of leaders who intended to accomplish the
same cause.
Giving further explanations, he focused on Ahmed Rezai’s suicide act
as a sacred feat beyond any regular suicide operation saying his act
was sacred and distinguished because he, as the suicide-man, had
reached a point where he had detached from his own self and had
attached himself to a source without. Any act in any form, being
suicide, self-immolation or else, done when the suicide detaches
himself from his within and relies on a pivot without not only
distances himself from any territory of sin but also transcends
himself to a status even above the martyrs. He would interpret that
the Quran regards suicide an act of sin because the perpetrator does
it in the sphere of observing only his own self and as a result of
failing to satiate his own personal will and whim. Then, it would be
considered no sin if committed far from selfish tendencies and for a
sacred causes to achieve some social and historical ends.
The Quran condemns suicide when motivated by individual urges and
the suicide sees no obligation to follow the orders of a leader who
intends to alleviate social problems and solve social controversies.
It is no more a sin as it relies on and is guided by a pivotal
element without who controls deflection when attached to. In fact,
Rajavi was commenting on the application of one of the articles of
his forced ideological revolution referred to as article F, Fardiyat
(individual). The article in particular asserts the relation between
the individuals and the leader meaning that it is the leader who
legitimizes anything said or done by the individuals. He is the
pivot on whom the individuals have to relay and attach themselves
for interpretation of anything that happens to be practical and the
criterion to assess the accuracy and soundness of thoughts.
SFF: What did Rajavi actually mean, attachment to leadership
or ideology? Since it is the ideology, however, that crystallizes
the values than the leader whose main role is to interpret and
foster them. What did he really mean?
BS: He exactly intended attachment to leadership himself.
There were controversies at the beginning on the ideological aspect
and some would say that suicide draw its legitimacy from the
ideology while Rajavi had a different opinion stressing on the
leader as the matrix to which the individual had to secure a
liaison. Although it may generally be considered the very same
ideology, Rajavi believes that it is the leader who is the spirit
without whom anything lacks legitimacy. It is main cause of his
strife with the Islamic Republic regime. Attachment to ideology in
his opinion is a general perception that actualizes by attaching to
the leadership. Then, the matrix one attaches himself to far from
his own self is the leader rather than the ideology since from the
very beginning the leader has crystallized the ideology itself. As a
matter of fact, both are regarded identical with the priority of the
former over the latter to justify suicide tantamount to a de facto
recognition of a sacred act wherever and whenever the leader wills.
Looking it from the angle of Rajavi’s interpretation, the leader is
the criterion and the grounds to judge what is lawful, permissible,
prohibited and ideologically acceptable. That is where one’s suicide
turns to be a big and unforgivable sin if it is unauthorized by the
leader regardless of him being directly or indirectly attached.
SFF: What do you mean by directly or indirectly?
BS: By directly I mean a reaction against any direct attempt
on the leader’s life when an individual risks his life to save the
leader. Any reaction to protect the interests of the leader anywhere
on the earth by risking one’s life is an indication of indirect
attachment, a responsibility the individuals claim to defend the
leadership, his security and interests. In both cases, whether the
leader is exposed to direct attempts of assassination or indirect
character assassination, one has to protect and defend the
leadership and sacrifice himself. To actualize his justifications,
he did not even shrink from identifying himself with the prophets
and imams. He would say the one who sacrificed himself to protect
the Prophet against the harms of the adversaries was identical with
the same faithful follower who committed suicide or self-immolation
away in the distance to defend his status and interests. Again the
criterion was the leadership and his unlimited protection directly
or indirectly.
I believe that Rajavi intended to completely remove the doubts
formed in the minds of the members of the Leadership Council that
suicide was in no way an act of sin and even sacred and glorified if
it was committed under the command of the leadership in any form.
The suicide who sacrificed himself for the cause of the leadership
and his interests anywhere in the world would be rewarded far beyond
that of a martyr who had been killed under the command of the
Prophet or the leader of the organization.
SFF: At the first look, it seems that the priority is first
to guarantee maintenance of the leadership’s interests and then
survival of the organization. Can it be the basis for all
justifications?
BS: Of course, in one aspect that is to guarantee the
interests of both leadership and the organization. But there is one
important point to notice, that is, the two are intermingled and
inseparable with the priority of the former. The organizational
interests can never be discussed separately unless accredited to the
leader just as it is with the ideology that draws its legitimacy
from the leadership.
To be continued
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Memoirs of Batoul Soltani –Part 21
No member of Leadership council dares to tell his
personal problems
By Sahar
Family Foundation
Translated by Nejat Society
August 19 2009
The affairs of
the Leadership Council including marrying Masud are never revealed
to lower ranks, due to the fact that Maryam and Masud believe:”the
lower ranks will not understand it because the pupils of their eyes
are sexual.”
“Pupils of the eyes are sexual” is a jargon expression in the
organization which is used for those who allegedly judge the affairs
sexually. In their opinion the case of such marriages is something
that the others are not able to realize.
I don’t think
that anyone in lower ranks know about the marriage agreement
announced for women of the Leadership Council and Masud Rajavi. As a
high ranking member who was responsible for meetings of lower ranks,
I don’t remember (at least as far as I was involved) the case of
marriages was presented. Maryam and Masud insist that there is no
need to present such a case in lower ranking meetings and also they
do not have the capacity to realize it. They said:” we set such an
arrangement to solve a historical problem. For me and other members
of the Leadership Council, everything presented by Rajavi was
acceptable. We had to discuss the most detailed problems of our
minor members for Rajavi, For example we talked about their health
problems or other problems, based on the content of reports of
weekly cleansing meetings (cult jargon) for male members. The
reports included their sexual problems or many other problems that
no one dare to propose.
Of course, the men’s problems were never presented in front of us
(as female members). Their contradictions were not told directly to
us. At first, they were presented in men’s meetings, under
particular regulations because these contradictions shouldn’t be
presented in public meetings unless it was a public case. If the
contradiction was sexual, it should be written to the male superior.
The latter would add the names. The name had to be written on a
separate paper and attached to the report [The name of the female
member whom he had emotional or sexual feelings for]. If a man wrote
the name of a woman in his report, he would be punished.
At the end of the day, the male superior handed the reports to the
female in charge and ultimately the reports were handed over to the
highest ranking member in the highest level. There, the reports were
investigated and the names were read. Then they immediately changed
the position of that female member and moved her to another unit.
So, even the lowest ranking members could guess that she had some
problem.
Sometimes the problem had happen between two male members. Then the
superiors organized both to change their positions. After the
changes were done, the two men became subjects of a series of
meetings. They had to deal with a project with its specific
outcomes.
There is no female member under the supervision of a male member.
All women of course were only under the supervision of a single man,
Massoud Rajavi. Before the evolutions in the leadership Council, the
meetings were held with the presence of both men and women, but
later Rajavi said that he didn’t want any female member to be under
the responsibility of a male member. He believed that men’s hegemony
upon women would definitely end in sexual problems. The relations
were managed in a way that all reports were presented and discussed
with Rajavi in daily meetings. For example the members reported that
such and such person had emotional and sexual thoughts about such
and such person.
Before marrying Massoud, none of the female members had the nerve to
present such cases in the meetings with Massoud or Maryam. Therefore
marrying Massoud was proposed. They told us:”You are all Massoud’s
wives, so you could easily speak of everything to get the solution.”
If someone didn’t accept the marriage, she would automatically drop
from that level.
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An interview with Batool Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part ten
Execution, the approach to repel dissenters
Sahar Family
Foundation, Baghdad, August 15, 2009
Translated by
Mojahedin WS
Sahar Family Foundation:
since the deployment of the American forces in the region and even
before that the serious agenda before the organization has been the
resistance of Camp Ashraf. That is why it is of such significance
for the organization and that is another issue to deal with. But the
question here is implementation of the means, explicitly suicide
operations, to defend Ashraf as the strategic bastion. That is the
fact we have already talked about when referring to human tragedy
and human shield, the members’ risking their life in defense of
Ashraf. Rajavi has reiterated that ‘if Ashraf resist, the whole
world resist’, in fact, such mottos show clear dispositions of the
leadership and other rankings towards Ashraf for its strategic
importance. Will you give further details on anything untold
concerning this issue and even what approaches did Rajavi take to
deal with those members who would resist against plotted suicides in
defense of Ashraf?
Batool Soltani: well, here are a nexus of issues that can be
discussed separately. One is the vow to defend Ashraf through any
possible means. First it was resolved to fight in defense of Ashraf
tooth and nail but circumstances proved to be more serious and they
had to think of a different approach to resist, that is to say,
human shield. Once they resolved on urgent transfer of the cadres of
the Leadership Council from Iraq to France and they even provided
passports for high rankings to get them out of Iraq. In 2003,
Massoud Rajavi, the beating heart of the organization, made a call
insisting that Auvers-sur-Oise, Maryam’s residence, was the brain of
the organization while Ashraf was naturally the heart; the brain
would naturally collapse if the heart’s beating declined, and it is
a question of how the brain and heart interrelate.
You know, after the fall of Saddam, the organization concentrated
all its propaganda capacity on Auvers-sur-Oise to present it, along
with Maryam, as the organization’s headquarters of the political
leadership in the West. They began to maneuver on Maryam as a
political engine there just after experiencing the failed tactic of
electing her as the president-elect. Just after her sham election,
she was sent to France to play her role there but it proved to be a
big failure and she was returned to Camp Ashraf to be conveyed back
right before the fall of Saddam. A new round of propagation began
since they were of the opinion that now, after the political
fluctuations in the region, the West would have a differently
positive opinion of Mojahedin. They targeted two aims
simultaneously; to stabilize their political bastion in the West by
attracting attentions to Auvers-sur-Oise, and second, to continue an
increasing protection in favor of Camp Ashraf for two reasons.
First, it has been regarded the organization’s ideological
receptacle that has the potentiality of rendering members’
ideological readiness. Second, it is observed to be a potential
armed force just within the reach of the coalition forces to be used
against Iran if they had any plan. The organization’s analysis of
the regional crises had convinced it that American’s military
interference against Iran was decisively inevitable and was planning
to fan the fire to accelerate what it imagined had to happen sooner
or later. Thus it was all conditioned on the preservation of Ashraf
as a future lever for America against Iran that could possibly lead
to Mojahedin’s seizing of power, the key issue on the back burner
that required the organization to be disarmed but remain under the
protection of a second patron and to unwillingly consent to the
wills of the Iraqi government until the due time came. So Ashraf had
to be preserved to invest the organization with a promising future.
After the 17 June tragic incidents, Massoud Rajavi insisted on a new
role play for the Leadership Council, the human shield to defend
Ashraf. It was just coincident with Rajavi’s two-year pledge that
ended with Bush’s presidency.
Rajavi knew well that out of Iraq would be the end of road for the
organization and insisted on staying in Iraq at any cost in hope of
a miracle that could open the gate to drive through into Iran. In an
earlier analysis he had stated that the organization’s permanent
stay in Iraq meant destruction of the organization in whole; it was
only a short stay to move to Iran. But now there was another
analysis that contradicted the previous; to leave Iraq was equal to
complete annihilation. The sole solution was to preserve Ashraf;
they could either wait to fish in the troubled waters of intensified
crises in the region or all would be buried in Camp Ashraf. The
approach for the latter choice was a mass suicide. But then they
conjectured that there could be other solutions as well. On was
based on the promise that because of the Geneva’s fourth article
they could not be forcefully repatriated. Then they draw a picture
that they would fight tooth and nail if there was any plan to
relocate them forcefully. The last proposed resolution was a mass
suicide; two deaths were the outcome of this decision. A number of
members dispersed after the invasion of the coalition forces were
returning to the camp when en route they were informed of the camp’s
siege by American forces. Two members the Leadership Council,
Marzieh Ali-ahmadi and Nazhat Arzbeigi, immediately set themselves
on fire to execute their organizational duty. In fact, they carried
out the mission Rajavi had assigned members to do in case American
forces occupied the camp. On two conditions members were told to
commit mass suicide; the incursion of either Americans or Iraqi
Shi’its into the camp. Just when Americans were behind the wall of
Ashraf, many members the Leadership Council were preparing to commit
suicide. Rajavi had even issued an ultimate for the disobedient who
refrained to commit suicide, it was revolutionary execution. No
doubt, no outsider could draw any distinction between a voluntary
suicide and revolutionary execution following a mass suicide. Rajavi
has thought of slightest details concerning his mass suicide program
at Ashraf; nobody has to be survived, the willing and the unwilling
have to be burn together.
Notably, there were other deterrent decrees issued by Rajavi in
private and in a meeting of higher echelons; the lower echelons were
unaware of the decrees. The escapees had to be targeted and executed
by others; it was the same fate that befell the disloyal and
betrayers. The deserters for the opposite front would also face the
same destiny. Interestingly, if anybody failed to commit suicide,
others had the responsibility to help him/her accomplish the job.
Thus, the human tragedy in defense of Ashraf is a program that has
to be possibly brought into actuality and there are a variety of
approaches that will act to remove deterrents.
To be continued
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Memoirs of Batoul Soltani – Part 20
Masud
Rajavi Married every woman of the Leadership Council
By: Sahar
Family Foundation
SFF – Translated by Nejat Society
August 08 2009
As I explained previously about Masud and Maryam’s Marriage, it was
a solution to remove the last obstacle between the leader and Maryam
since no obstacle is accepted in this relationship. In the case of
the leadership Council of which the members are all women, there was
also the same legal, moral and religious contradiction that has to
be removed.
Any woman who wants to enter the Leadership Council should obey the
article B of the Ideological Revolution, which was actually related
to “Joining the leader”. In this article the women are told to marry
Masud Rajavi as soon as they are accepted in the Leadership Council.
As a matter of fact this article is mentioned just after the person
has become a member of the Leadership Council. I remember Maryam
discussing the argument for us saying: ”Now you are exclusively
considered as Msaud’s wives”. Therefore the contradiction was
removed. And only Masud could hold meetings for women of the
Leadership Council since in his opinion when a woman is a member of
the Leadership Council her relationship with the leader is totally
different from the other members.
Thus, through a series of long-term meetings, the members of the
Leadership council are convinced that the extent of their relation
with the leader has changed due to their presence in the Leadership
Council. Distinctively after that Masud is their husband. Then, he
introduced a marriage certificate for each member of the Council.
It is worth informing that there were official ceremonies
specifically held for the above mentioned marriages and I was
present in one of them. Before the start of the ceremony, Maryam
explained the article B again discussing its differences for a man
and for a woman.
They presented some arguments on the issue but unfortunately I don’t
remember them in details since they are related back to 1999. In
fact the bottom line of those arguments was as Maryam said: ”you are
not a divorced or abandoned woman any more … You are Msaud’s
ideological wives”. She meant that this type of marriage is not
ordinary but it is spiritual.
About the formation of the ceremony, Maryam herself was the one who
hold the meeting. The scenario was like this “At the beginning
Maryam asked Masud to enter the meeting and Masud refused at first
and pretended that he was forced to come in. Apparently, Masud
wasn’t willing to attend the meeting and Maryam insisted him to do
so.
Even Maryam told the members of the Leadership Council that she was
doing so to remove their contradictions. She said: ”Your minds are
still bounded with legal and traditional restrictions and this might
cause problems in the future”. She emphasized that marrying Masud
would close their minds to any other man. Finally Masud got into the
meeting and he himself announced the marriage agreement and each
member said “I do”.
For the ceremony, after Masud went into the meeting, he gave a
break. Then everyone made wudhu (ablution) and came back, Masud
himself announced the agreement and the women said “I do” one by
one. Apparently, they were not forced to say so.
It was a routine ceremony which was held for each group of the
leadership Council members who were replaced. I myself attended the
forth ceremony.
Before the ceremony, the meetings were completely different; members
didn’t talk about anything; but after the marriage ceremony, the
atmosphere was so different that the women could talk about their
most personal and sexual problems.
Once, I remember a woman who didn’t say “I do” in the marriage
ceremony. Then I saw that she was automatically excluded from our
meetings. We never saw her in the meetings in that level anymore.
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An interview with Batool Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part 9
Rajavi; set your body on fire to defend Ashraf
Sahar Family
Foundation, Baghdad, August 06, 2009
Translated by
Mojahedin WS
Sahar Family
Foundation:
In our last talk you pointed out that the prerequisite for
membership in the organization is to volunteer for self-immolation.
Does it mean that the organization reacts against the reluctant and
how does it deal with such instances?
Batool Soltani: The organization takes no clear position to
directly confront in such instances. To answer the question, we need
to conduct a deep analysis of a whole organizational reaction
against already confronted cases. There was a female colleague who
had refused to volunteer for self-immolation but the organization
showed no antagonistic attitude towards her before others. It was
not the end of the story and the organization commanded me to watch
her closely since they believed that she was in trouble with herself
and cared not the least for the organization. They would justify
that now even ten days after the detention of Maryam in France, she
had refrained to be an abstentious volunteer. In fact, the
organization avoided to tackle with these members just before the
eyes of others and pretended to overlook them. In this way, many
others would be impressed to join the side of majority since the
impartiality proved to be a working propaganda to attract more than
to repel. Furthermore, nobody could accuse the organization of
coercing members into acts of suicide and the acts would be
propagated as personal outbursts of passion and consequent of strong
devotion to the ideology, Maryam and Massoud. The process of
indirect control of the disobedient would continue until through an
excuse they would be seriously censured. There were some among the
rankings of the Leadership Council who refused to volunteer for
suicide operations but after a while were suddenly evanesced from
the council. In my opinion, the use of clever mechanisms of control
to undermine the dissidents functioned much better than exploiting
levers of pressure and coercion. And so far it has succeeded to
expand glorification of suicide operation as a token of devotion
among the insiders.
SFF: You have already stated that self-immolation as a kind
of suicide operation has been innovated by the organization. Can you
say exactly when the organization selected it as a working lever,
and who was the first to suggest it and for what reason?
BS: Well, I have already explained that the suicide operation
is not new but was innate in organization from its very formation.
SFF: I mean in its novel form of self-immolation.
BS: Well, it was first conducted to be committed in 17 June
operations. We have never witnessed it before.
SFF: To make it more clear, when it was first suggested as a
solution and by whom?
BS: It returns to Massoud Rajavi’s last meeting in Camp Ahraf
before the fall of Saddam. It was a well known meeting called ‘the
meeting of flag’. Of course, the issue was not explicitly mentioned
there but it was later discussed in a meeting of the Leadership
Council that what should have to be done to defend if Saddam
collapsed and Camp Ashraf came under unexpected threat from the
outside. For the first time Massoud suggested self-burning as a
defensive advantage to safeguard Ashraf. He frankly stated that to
repel any threat intended to dismantle Camp Ashraf all had to
sacrifice and set themselves on fire. Of course, at the time the
organization was not suffering the deteriorating condition of being
disarmed and it was still equipped with a variety of heavy and light
weapons that could defend itself to some extent. But it seemed that
Rajavi was anticipating a near future of invasion that could
seriously challenge the organization before it could use its arms.
So the best defensive measure was resolved by Rajavi to be suicide
through self-immolation. We never saw Massoud again till the
manifestation of his novel suggestion in the incidents of 17 June.
SFF: To remind you, I have to point out that the issue of
self-immolation emerged for the first time in the letters of the
members who wrote them to Massoud Rajavi following his ideological
revolution as an indication of devotion to him and his revolution. I
remember a letter in Jafarzadeh’s handwriting published by a website
in which he had volunteered to commit self-immolation to show his
loyalty. These letters date back to 1985 and I mean to say that the
issue was first proposed at that time as the letters indicate.
Furthermore, even when France was expelling some members to Gabon,
Maryam Rajavi is quoted to have said Massoud Rajavi had stopped
remonstrant self-immolations as a raised objection against the
decision taken by France. Your reference to the meeting dates back
to 2002, then, can you remember any earlier occasion when the issue
came under notice?
BS: To correct, I was not in the organization at the time you
are referring to. I joined in mid 1980s and I have seen none of the
things you say in the sources published by the organization.
SFF: All of the instances I stated you can find in the
publications of the organization if you have access to them.
BS: It seems that my information as a member of the
organization fails to surpass that of yours. I would be grateful if
you could give me the address to these sources.
To be continued
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Mass grave found in Ashraf garrison (MKO base) in Iraq
Sunday August 2, 2009
http://www.alalam.ir/newspage.asp?newsid=111170120090802014919

According to confirmed reports
reflected in the Iraqi media, a mass grave containing victims of
Saddam Hussein's regime during the war against Kuwait in 1991 was
found in Ashraf garrison, the base of the Mojahedin-e Khalq
Organization, in the Diyala province in Iraq.
Iraqi media reports also reflected
the joy of the inhabitants of the Diyala province that the Iraqi
government has imposed its rule over what was described as the "camp
housing the terrorist MKO".
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An interview with Batool Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part 8
Human
tragedy in prospect; Mojgan Parsai the first volunteer
By: Sahar
Family Foundation
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
July 22 2009
Sahar Family Foundation: In our last session we talked about
the possibility of a human tragedy. You said that all volunteers had
signed a written pledge for self-immolation. The question is to what
degree the organization can exploit these signed pledges to stage a
human tragedy?
Batool Soltani: This is an issue of high potentiality. In
fact, these letters helped the organization have an effective
evaluation to plot its future scenarios. They are substructures on
which the organization will lay the groundwork for its political
strategies. But regardless of these potential means and developing a
true assessment of the devoted on whom it can relay, it shows the
organization’s own fascination in such activities that are some true
aspects of cultic relations. Admittedly, most cults behave according
to pre-planned scenarios in their relations with the outside world.
It is also the same with Mojahedin.
When a member like Sedigheh Mojaveri commits self-immolation, for
sure her feat has been already discussed in detail in higher
echelons of the organization. It fails to be an arbitrary decision,
not even one percent, to step into the street and set oneself on
fire; any instance of unbridled passion is absolutely rejected by
the organization and fails to be accounted as an organizationally
directed objective.
Frankly speaking, no member of the organization with whatever
ranking, being in charge of any post or else, hardly takes a step
uncontrolled and uncoordinated by the organization. In a
hierarchical order within an organization with tight discipline and
very limited internal democracy, the responsible ranks have to be
aware of the slightest overt and covert things about the members
under their authority and there is nothing kept secret about the
members in respect to their status.
For example, I was in England for four years and my massul (the one
in charge) was aware of the single moments of my stay there; it was
the same with the members under my authority. Hardly can you find an
organization with so strong sense of cohesion and tight internal
discipline. Consequently, no decision of self-immolation remains
concealed from the ranks in charge and nobody ever dares to disobey
the organization to engage in any self-motivated act of suicide.
SFF: From what layer of the organization were specifically
the first volunteers of self-immolation in Camp Ashraf? Can you, for
instance, name the first volunteer?
BS: You know, anything in an organization emerges from the
top layers and gradually, through a well orchestrated mechanism, is
spread to lower layers. It is done so skillfully that after a while
those in the top can hardly believe that what is so easily embraced
and theorized among the lower ranks is a magnified reflex of what
had been originated in the top.
SFF: Now, can you name the first volunteer for
self-immolation in Camp Ashraf when it was resolved on the act?
BS: In the department I was, Mojgan Parsai was the first who
broached the subject and she was also the first volunteer. Her first
sentence to begin was ‘It is worthwhile to set on fire whatever we
have in Camp Ashraf for Maryam’s freedom’. Of course, what she said
was another interpretation of Massoud Rajavi’s message stating that
we had to make use of all our facilities and potentialities wherever
we were to set Maryam free. He would say any Mojahed breathing on
this planet had to be ready to sincerely sacrifice and set on fire
whatever he had for the sake of Maryam. Thus, it all began in the
echelon of the Leadership Council and the enthusiast slid down to
the lower layers. It is also the same with other issues. Consider,
for instance, they want to elect a first secretary.
The candidate would be elected in the first layers of the Leadership
Council but remained secret. Idiomatically they would say ‘let the
string of anything loose and it will unwind to the lowest layers’.
They meant that whatever they decided on would be indirectly
conveyed to the lesser ranks down to the bottom where it again
quickly and energetically bounces back to the top layers as
something new. Now it was our time to galvanize them into action and
arrange a formal meeting to elect the one we had already decided on.
None of the members present at the meeting knew what was really
going on and how they had been inculcated to vote for Mojgan Parsai
or Sedigheh Hussaini for example. Anything would end happily. On the
one hand the top layers had picked up their favorite one and on the
other hand, it would be propagated that a candidate had been elected
through a totally democratic process. Everyone thought that his/her
has been respectfully accomplished. Now suppose that somebody from
the top layers had decided to commit self-immolation.
The decision had to be discussed in detail in all three layers of
the Leadership Council before being approved by the first secretary
and the leadership. I mean to say again that nobody with whatever
ranking and organizational status, even if a proxy for the
leadership, could take a perverse and decisive action or decision
for whatever personal and organizational objective. Only those
familiar with the layers of the Leadership Council can understand
what I mean.
Systematically, when one from
the top volunteers for self-immolation, as I did, it denotes that
the person has grabbed at the loosed string whether he accedes to it
or not. When I myself unwillingly volunteered for the act, in fact,
I was sizing the string Mojgan Parsai had let down to let it pass to
lower levels. It was only a reaction to what the organization tried
to instill into the members. When I saw how devoted Mojgan was when
she announced her readiness to burn herself for the sake of Maryam,
although I did not know how sincere she was in what she claimed,
naturally it could impress me to be the second to volunteer. Of
course the sincerity is not at all a matter of any significance but
the enthusiast and incitement such an atmosphere created among
others.
Now the question is how the incitement could provoke the human
tragedy you mentioned. Through the same mechanism of the idea being
passed down from the top to the down, the crystallized ideas in the
lesser layers very easily generate actions and the created
enthusiast erupt into actions that may lead to human tragedy. It is
much expected among the lower layer than the top since the rank and
file are more emotive and impulses from the top easily impress
themselves on them. Of course, you may notice that the top layers
never fail to show off their emotions but for sure they are rational
and reasonable when they have to act.
That is why they are the first to volunteer but hardly the last to
put the words into action; unlike them, the lesser layers are
resolute not only to do what they volunteer themselves for but also
enter a compete and try to outstrip each other. That is how it may
end to a human tragedy in its worst form. When I see that a ranking
member like Mojgan Parsai volunteers for self-immolation, what do
you expect of me as a subordinate! To be sure, as I have been
already notified, I will not be the one to set myself on fire when
the time comes because I know they will never let me harm myself as
one belonging to the higher echelon. However, the occurrence of a
human tragedy inside Camp Ashraf depends on Massoud Rajavi’s will
and a number of other factors well identified by him to trigger the
disaster. And it is all because of the strategically decisive role
Camp Ashraf plays in Mojahedin’s existence and survival. So
important an issue it is for Mojahedin that it requires a long
discourse.
To be continued
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Memoirs of Ms. Batoul Soltani (Part 19)
Rajavi and the Leadership Council
By: Sahar
Family Foundation
Translated by Nejat Society
July 19 2009
As I described in previous parts of my memoirs, I felt that Rajavi
liked the women to be around him and he couldn’t bear the presence
of even one man in his surroundings. But there were apparently other
factors to select these women for the leadership council. There were
some individuals who were so devoted to the ideas of the leadership
and they were so eager to work hard but they didn’t succeed to be a
member of the Council due to the lack of some factors. There were
too many arguments on these cases. For example they said: ”Although,
she (a particular person) has ideologically reached an acceptance
level, she cannot be a member of the leadership council because she
doesn’t have the skills to take responsibility to carry out the
organizational tasks, she cannot manage well or she cannot speak
fluently.”
Being a good speaker or having executive skills was prior to
ideological competence of the member. I remember when they selected
Sediqe Husseini, they always told her: ”we assign you as a member of
the leadership council but you have to increase your knowledge and
correct your mistakes [remove your negative points] .
I don’t think that appearance is a factor but there are some
examples that raise the doubt that personal appearance matters in
selection of some female members. For instance in the case of Maryam
Rajavi when she was selected as the first secretary of the
organization she was actually the most beautiful woman among
high-ranking members. Or, about Fahime Arvani who was at that time
the prettiest woman in the organization. She was really beautiful.
So her selection caused too many accusations and protests. Members
were implicitly complaining to the authorities: ”You select the
beautiful ones.” This was a question in member’s minds that they
stated it indirectly, for example they stated it as if it was an
accusation against Rajavi or Mojahedin from outside the
organization.
Even Rajavi tried to answer the question saying “we are accused of
such affairs”. He emphasized that the selections were not based on
beauty or appearance. Then he made some examples including Mozhgan
“that she was selected although she was not beautiful.” He tried to
prove that sections were just based on organizational rules and
regulations. Actually he made the most use of these accusations to
condemn the dissidents and he had also his own expression: ”our job
is to close corrupt businesses” he meant that people who made such
accusations have opened corrupt businesses.
Another accusation was that they select educated people. Rajavi
tried to justify it by saying “for example Nasrin was not educated
but she was selected as the first secretary of the organization. So
these examples challenged the claims. But I think these people were
just selected to remove such label inside or outside the
organization. Therefore, I can say that at least the selection of
Maryam Rajavi and Fahimeh Arvani was based on their beauty. Maybe,
when they elected a person who was not so beautiful among 4 or 5
people who were the most devotees to the leadership, they wanted to
remove such a label.
About the relationship between Rajavi and women of the leadership
Council, I would say that it was so friendly and comfortable that if
a stranger came in their meetings, he thought that this guy was all
these women’s husband. I mean that the meetings in the level of the
Leadership Council, was completely different from regular meetings
that were held in the public hall.
Within the Leadership Council, Rajavi talked about the most personal
affairs with the women trying to use his sense of humor. He
apparently showed a lot of respect for these women and gave them
compliments like:”You are all my hopes”,”I only rely on you”. These
compliments made the members to become self-centered. The relations
in the Leadership Council were totally different. As I said the
relation between Rajavi and women of the Leadership Council was so
comfortable that the women told him words like: ”we love you, we are
your devotees..” such words basically showed the close relationship.
Rajavi sent presents for these women. I remember a few times that he
specifically sent some presents for women, they tried their best to
get closer to him and tell him that they are in love with him. I
remember a woman of the Leadership Council who justified such
relations by saying “I have read in a lot of books that the women at
prophet Mohammad‘s (peace be upon him) era, in order to draw prophet
Mohammad’s attention to themselves, tried to show off in his way or
even they tried to marry him in order to wipe out their sins. All
prophets' wives tried to get a better position before him.” In fact,
by the comparison that they made between Masud Rajavi and Prophet
Mohammad, they wanted to justify their strange relationship with
Rajavi. Also through these arguments, they tried to heighten
Rajavi’s position to the level of a prophet.
On the other hand, Rajavi’s reaction to the compliments was arranged
in a way that no opposition was stated. I remember an example of his
reaction to the compliments: Dr. Yahya [Hussein Forsat] who was a
dentist, in a meeting flattered Masud Rajavi by saying that: ”what
you are saying is beyond our time and the world would see its result
in the future” and then he concluded that “You [Rajavi] are Imam
Zaman” (Shiite’s absent twelfth Imam). Now look at Rajavi’s response
to such a compliment, he said: ”Yahya what do you say? I will pull
out your teeth”. So he indirectly encouraged him to continue his
compliments. Sometime, he took a special gesture and pretended to
disconnect the person's microphone.
Indeed he was really happy with the situation. They had succeeded to
manipulate the members in order to put them into this illusion. When
the members started their compliments, Maryam and Masud Rajavi
waited for their words to be listened completely and the atmosphere
of the hall be influenced by the compliments. Then they apparently
complained that they were not glad with such a compliment. Sometimes
some fanatic members interrupted the discussion by saying “You are
Imam Zaman yourself; the messiah of our time!”
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Interview with Ms Batool Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part
seven
Suicide operation, a lever to defend Camp Ashraf
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad, July 15, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin WS, July 18, 2009
Sahar Family Foundation:
If you will, Mrs. Soltani, let’s have a talk over claimed challenges
that presses the organization to react by suicide operations. I
mean, what are the threats that concern the organization to
prescribe suicide operation to confront? Is there actually any
objective worth of concern or claims are merely grounded on
propagation or a falsely intensified atmosphere?
Batool Soltani:
It can be argued from many angles; one, the actual and objective
backgrounds that lead to the possible perpetration of operations and
second, operations merely planned to keep members in a status of
readiness and to isolate them from passivity. Members have to be
always kept busy doing something while raising in them a high morale
of obedience and submission. Members in Camp Ashraf are on alert of
committing mass suicide on the grounds that there are many blind
spots round the camp through which outsiders might easily infiltrate
to either kidnap the members of the Leadership Council and use them
as hostages or kill them. The possible reaction to these threats
could be a mass suicide of the insiders.
SFF: Were there just conjectures or there were some truth in
what they claimed?
BS: Both of them. In some cases there were well grounded
reasons but sometimes they fabricated things. Once, I remember, they
distributed cyanides among the members of the Leadership Council
after they had collected them all. No clear reason was presented but
soon we came to know the cause. One of the members who had left for
the American-run camps had informed that the organization had built
secret jails just where our base was situated. So, one night
American forces entered the camp in an attempt to discover the
secret place. Of course, the report was one of many dubious ones
already reported to Americans. But the organization had smelled a
threat, a warning to something that could hit unexpectedly and thus,
it distributed the cyanides to react immediately if needed.
SFF: You mean any entrance to Camp Ashraf for whatever reason
is looked on as a threat against which the sole solution is suicide?
BS: Exactly. That is what, for instance, they mean by
referring to the human tragedy in the issue of their expulsion from
the Camp Ashraf and Iraq. By human tragedy they mean a mass protest
through a mass-immolation. They are so resolute that they will
deliberately set the reluctant ones on fire on pretence of willing
actions since the dead never speak. What Rajavi stresses on as human
tragedy should have broader dimensions but the least they can do and
will impose on others can be nothing but the working means of a mass
suicide.
That is what they exclusively argued on in the level of the
Leadership Council. Among the rank and file it was deeply instilled
that defense of Ashraf was a matter of life and death and all
members had to become human shield to defend it. The issue of human
shield was discussed with the members one by one in 2006. The
protest against general relocation could be shown either by
individual self-immolation or mass suicide. The question was first
put forward by Rajavi himself that how members would react were the
Iraqis to transfer Camp Ashraf altogether. The presented solution
was human shield as a defensive measure since all knew about the
Iraqis’ felt hatred towards Mojahedin because of their collaboration
with Saddam and their effective role as his private army. Mojahedin
were present wherever Saddam needed them to suppress his dissidents.
Therefore, Mojahedin have no other way but to think of a working
means to confront any posed threat against their bastion by the
Iraqi new government’s resolutions. The Fall of Saddam has led them
to a dire situation with no authoritative protector and they have to
think of a defensive vehicle for themselves. They even devised an
organizational hierarchy entitled the organizational pyramid to
protect Camp Ashraf. However, the foremost priority was to protect
the members of the Leadership Council since it is the pivotal issue
for Rajavi, that is to say, protection of the members of the
Leadership Council equals to protection of Camp Ashraf. Here again,
as you see, anything revolves round a strategic axis contrived by
Rajavi and whatever he conjures is somehow entwined with this
organizationally devised Leadership Council.
SFF: Then, Rajavi believes that protection of Camp Ashraf is
strategically possible through suicide operation and human shield.
Will you explain to what degree such lever can actually work as a
protecting means?
BS: to understand to what extent it is working, we have to
refer to already occurred instances. Following Maryam Rajavi’s
arrest the organization proved its seriousness and persistence in
carrying out such operations. So far it has proved that it can
persuade or coerce insiders, willingly or unwillingly, into
committing whatever it deems necessary to achieve its ends and the
insiders’ will has actually no effect in the accomplishment of the
organization’s demands. The sole way to avoid being an accomplice in
the organization’s plots is to take your courage to escape by a well
drawn plan, as I did. Now with the withdrawal of the American
forces, the sole hope of easy escape to the TIPF has actually
vanished and hardly members find an easy way out. Even in the time
of Saddam it was impossible and, if anybody insisted, cost members a
lot to get themselves out of the organization; it was only through
the notorious Abo-Ghorib prison and other places that someone could
manage to detach. That is why I insist on saying that members have
no other choice but to consent to whatever the organization demands
them to do and under no condition they follow a will of their own.
SFF: Then, you believe that any attempt by Iraq to expel or
relocate Mojahedin will lead to such activities (suicide operation).
BS: Certainly.
SFF: What factors can you exclusively refer to now talking
over human shield and tragedy?
BS: You know, following the incident of 17 June, we received
piles of letters by rank and file volunteering for suicide. The act
was later hallmarked as an indicative of devotion and they began to
closely examine to see who among the ranks had dodged devotion. I
was among those who had not volunteered for suicide but they
reproached me as a ranking member and I volunteered reluctantly;
otherwise I would be suspected to be at odds with the organization.
However, the organization insisted that none of these volunteers had
to engage in self-instigated suicides since no individual had the
right to spill a drop of his/her blood unless approved by the
organization. Any form of suicide or self-immolation uncoordinated
by the organization is considered to be a useless, unproductive act.
So sensitive is the organization about these suicide acts that they
say commission of any suicide legitimizes only after we organize
them and issue orders. So it becomes clear that self-immolations in
France were all organized as a political lever. To make sure, I had
an argument with Mojgan Parsai (in Camp Ashraf). I told her as I had
volunteered for suicide; I wanted to set myself on fire before the
American’s base there. Of course, it was only to see what her
reaction could be. She took me to her office and talked to me for
two hours saying that it was a useless act there while Sedigheh
(Mojaveri) and Neda Hassani’s acts of self-immolation were
politically worthwhile in France. She said if I committed suicide in
the camp nothing changed but the organization lost a member of the
Leadership Council, not even a slight report of my suicide would be
published in the local papers let alone being mentioned in an
international scale. The act could be exploited to the maximum
degree for political and propaganda purposes in France or England.
That is why I emphasis that Mojahedin encounter no obstacle in
creating a human tragedy as it has already displayed its
potentiality following the arrest of Maryam Rajavi; the organization
has many volunteers who have signed to commit suicide whenever and
wherever commanded.
To be continued
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Memoirs of Ms. Batoul Soltani – Part 18
MKO key Formula:
Why Maryam … Because Masud
By: SFF
Translated by Nejat Society
July 15 2009
Supposedly Rajavi has always
tried to manage his behaviors and relations like the ones of Imam
Ali (the first Imam of Shiites and the fourth Caliph of Sunnis). He
didn’t declare this claim orally, but implicitly it was obvious he
acted in a way that his tendency was to represent such a
personality.
He led the affairs in such a
direction that his followers or Maryam were made to emphasize on
this aspect of his personality.
Rajavi smartly showed off these distinct aspects of his personality
through main arguments in the group. He tried to represent the
patterns as theoretical and instructional while he was actually
leading the audience to view him as the real example of those
patterns or personalities [like Imam Ali]. For example, in case of
his marriage with Maryam, he arranged the scene so skillfully that
everyone believed he was the main person who accepted all the heavy
accusation of the marriage due to ideological and political
necessities. He or Mehdi Abrishamchi set the table very well that we
couldn’t see behind the scene. Finally people like Abrishamchi or
Davari (Pins of MKO) arranged a scenario implying that they were
inspired Masud was the only one to bear all charges against him
after Maryam Rajavi divorced Abrishamchi.
They tried to confirm that such devotion needs an extraordinary
super-natural capacity. For instance, when Rajavi spoke of Spiritual
Struggle [Jihad Akbar] he said: ”once fighting and martyrdom was the
highest level of faith in the struggle, but today honesty and
devotion are higher than martyrdom. He categorized them as holy
warriors and revolutionary people. He said that Imams were pious men
and prophets were sincere men. In fact he wanted to categorize
himself in the group of Imams and prophets which are in a higher
level than martyrs stand.
Following his interpretations, others were supposed to evaluate his
ranking based on what they received from his words. The pins (like
Maryam Rajavi) had the responsibility to introduce Masud Rajavi
according to the interpretations he gave from Quran. Therefore,
gradually they could give him the position of Imam Ali or Prophet
Mohammad (peace be upon him).
When he wanted to form the leadership Council consisting of female
members, he stated viewpoints on woman claiming that these are of
Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) that he couldn’t perform them
at his era due to the ignorance ruling his time, and now he [Rajavi]
is accomplishing the Prophet's task.
He claimed that one of the ideas of Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon
him) and Imam Ali was that all political and administrative systems
be based on women but they couldn’t actualize it. And now he is
fulfilling their wish.
To choose the members of the leadership Council, the main criterion
for Rajavi was how much they are devoted. There is a formula in MKO
discussions: They ask: "why Maryam” and then they answer: “because
Masud”. It means that Maryam is the first woman linked with Masud.
Maryam, herself asked: ”why Maryam?” and then she answered herself:
”because I love Masud more than anyone else does, because I was the
first person who melted into Masud, I was unified in Masud, and I
was just for Masud.”
In our ideological discussions, we tried to step forward after
Maryam (following Maryam’s path) and talk about this kind of
relationships. Every man or woman had to follow the same way to be
melted into the leadership.
Following this argument, she said that we should love Masud instead
of our husbands. If the members could have the same emotions and
feelings for Masud as they have for their spouses, they could be
true revolutionary fighters. This showed the extent of your devotion
to Masud. Naturally, they chose the members of the leadership
council according to this criterion.
About my own selection as a member of the leadership council, Maryam
asked me: ”Do you know why you are selected despite the fact that
you have recently entered the organization? Why we didn’t choose
other people who have a longer period of membership?”
She made too many arguments and reasoning to prove that they have
chosen me because I could comprehend the essence of revolution very
well. She meant that I was totally melted into the leader’s ideas,
because I could pass over my husband and children. The best
criterion for MKO leaders was that a member could solve his problems
and obstacles and could reach Maryam and Masud.
Any selection in MKO is based on the fact that how you have solved
your contradictions: this measures your absolute devotion to the
leaders.
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On MKO’s Ideological Revolution
Memoirs of Batoul Soltani – Part 17
By: SFF
July 02 2009
Translated by Nejat Society
As a high ranking member of the leadership Council, I was in charge
of a series of meetings, and I received special trainings from
Maryam Rajavi on how to deal with the contradictions arising from
ideological divorce which forced a woman to leave her husband in
order to stay loyal to the organization’s ideas.
Besides, Masud managed the meetings of the ideological revolution
himself saying: "suppose that you have brought an Iranian youth to
the organization and you want to explain and justify the ideological
revolution to him. You should clarify it to him that he cannot be
married and be a fighter at the same time. You should explain that
one cannot think of sexual or emotional problems while one is
struggling.
Then you should ask this question that whether one wants to be in
the path of struggle and liberty or in the path of a normal life.
So, this was the way we encountered the newcomers explaining that
they would fail to succeed in their struggle to the extent that they
are involved in external problems. For example, when we argued with
an unmarried girl, we told her:”in the core of your personal
relations and emotions, there is a symbol which is the idol of the
society”. Then we asked her: "what's your symbol and idol, as a girl
in the society?” and then we answered the question ourselves:”a good
husband according to your ideals.”
Also for a married woman, there has always been a person in the
heart of her emotions. I remember the example that Rajavi always
used to use:”what does a revolutionary person have to give as the
price of his revolution? You have left your homes, your families,
your spouses, and your children, so what do you offer to your
revolution now?” Then he added “But I’d say that you have a lot to
give for the revolution and that is your emotions.” They dealt with
the center of emotions in individuals because it is the origin of
motives and interests. Thus, they analyzed the members’ internal
motives to remove all other motives from the members’ minds except
the motive of struggle. On the other hand, we tried to suppress the
alleged anti-revolutionary motives of the members saying that: “all
your motives have to be for the organization and according to the
desires of the leaders.”
If an individual has a problem with understanding such a mechanism,
he will be likely to leave the group someday.” Then the officials
try to guess in which phase that individual will have problems with
the internal ideological revolution so they recognize if the person
is an appropriate recruit or not. In fact, for Mojahedin,
recruitment means total devotion to the organizational relations.
They try to reach their goals by using these anti-human levers.
About the marriage of Masud and Maryam, they make some examples:
they believe that Maryam’s efficiency has become much higher than
the time she was Abrishamchi’s wife and when she removed the
obstacle of her ex-husband and linked herself to Masud, she raised
her abilities to the level of the first authority of MKO while
before her ideological marriage with Masud she was just in charge of
a single unit! Then they make it a practical fact in the routine
life of members. They try to convince members that the only way to
promote your abilities is to link yourself with Masud by abandoning
your spouses, your families, and your children… For instance, they
asked Maryam:”could you do your current tasks before your divorce
and marriage with Masud?” she replied:”No, I was unable to do so, I
was weak. I could not even manage two persons. Then my energy was
liberated, my abilities flourished. I could rely on another point
which was Masud Rajavi so I could accept higher responsibilities.”
This has become a proof for their arguments.
I believe that Masud Rajavi has a very poor relationship with men.
This aspect of his personality is very clear within his regular
relations. I remember that he seriously disagreed with men to film
his internal meetings. So he ordered that all leadership Council
meetings should be filmed by women only. He planned a time schedule
for some women to learn how to work with a camera. He hysterically
opposed the men. Now, when I look back, I see the roots of this
characteristic in his sensuality and jealousy. Maybe, it is natural
that when a man is among a number of women, he would not like
another man to be there. This is my internal feeling. That’s why
Rajavi tried to choose women for all needed forces related to him. I
think he couldn’t tolerate a camera man in front of himself.
He tried
hard to remove the members of the political office since they were
all men. Apparently he believes that women work very hard so he was
always fond of women. When a new woman entered the organization, he
was fascinated by her. He welcomed her by joking and having fun. In
the high ranks of the hierarchy of the group he was all the time
seeking to remove a man from the high ranks and replace him with a
woman. Due to this personal tendency he filled up his leadership
Council with a selection of female members.
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Interview with Batoul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part six
The red-line discriminating between word and action in suicide
operation
Sahar Family
Foundation, Baghdad, July 08, 2009
Translated by
Mojahedin.ws
Sahar
Family Foundation:
Will you please specifically recount instances of what can be
defined as classified information?
Batul Soltani: Well, what can be specifically referred to are
those information that supply details on the locations of
headquarters within Auvers-sur-Oise and Camp Ashraf. That is to say,
any geographical, security detail about these and other camps mostly
concerning the compounds of the leadership. There is much more
related information; the extent of security measures for the
entrance and the control of inter-organizational affairs, the
whereabouts of cadres situated inside the camps and their
hierarchical relations, and information about those organizationally
permitted to pass in or out of these places. Regular and irregular
visits of these places by the leadership, the setting plan of the
buildings and the sections in the camps and the people positioned in
them, how the security systems work to control the cadres’ shifts
and what are the defensive measures, human or mechanically
controlled, to reduce or counter threats from the outside are all
instances of classified information. Of other instances to name are
the existing differences within the Auvers-sur-Oise and Camp Ashraf,
the security check-points to ensure safe passage in and out,
internal offices that verify the validity of the passports and
visas, the rankings in the charge of controlling and issuing ID
cards for individuals to enter the camps or the cadres who leave on
missions. Anybody entering Mojahedin’s enclave is regarded to have
passed over the red-line of a highly secretive boundary that is
totally concealed from the outside world.
SFF:
We will talk on the issue further later on. But now let’s have a
look on the issue that any suicide operation inevitably has its own
consequences. The aggressive kind, for example, will willingly or
unwillingly lead to the death of some innocents in the vicinity. For
instance, when the organization plotted suicide operations to
assassin the leaders of Friday-Prayer, many other innocent crowds
were perished along with the main target. I want to know how does
the organization justify such deeds and who are in charge of
deciding to stop or carry out these operations. Better to say, where
lays the drawn red-line that justifies such operations?
BS:
Your question can be answered from many angles. First, we have to
ascertain how the organization and Rajavi in particular draw the
red-line between the word and theory for carrying out these
operations. Second, we have to see to what extent the words are
actually practical, and third, what is the position of the
leadership concerning what should not have actually happened and how
he has treated with the disobedient. They are all related to
understand the question and its different aspects. First of all, the
red-line and instances are drawn just by the leadership and all
operational ranks have to submit to it. Nobody dispatched for an
operation can defy Rajavi’s drawn red-line and any operation team
knows well that accomplishment of mission eclipses any other
priority. Now, it is important to distinguish between Rajavi’s
red-line of word and action. The red-line in Rajavi’s word is taking
heed of protecting the life and property of the public who have no
role in the operations as well as public buildings and passages.
Interestingly, no saboteur is permitted to desist from the plotted
operation just because he/she is overstepping the red-line. The only
person with the authority to halt the operations is Masoud Rajavi
himself. Now, the question is, and only Rajavi can give a proper
answer, how it is possible exactly to stop crossing the red-line in
the course of an operation that has to be unquestionably performed
and which only Rajavi himself can order to be halted. The context
and setting of some of these operations invariably requires
sacrifice of innocent people in the vicinity. Once, for example,
when a terror team was sent to assassin Asadollah Lajevardi in
Tehran’s bazaar, the role of crowds in the bazaar can never be
underestimated since they play the role of a deterrent factor both
while targeting the victim and when escaping from the scene; there
are always people in the scene who may in an automatic reaction
interfere or hinder and the assassins see no other way but to shoot
at them to open the way or one may come between the assassin and the
target. Naturally, there are two options; either you have to abandon
the operation and escape or accomplish the mission regardless of
violating the red-line with whatever casualty. The latter requires
that you have to be serious in completely obliterating any obstacle
on the way. And Rajavi himself knows all these truths that it is
impossible to carry out an operation of assassination without
harming other innocents. It is the same case with suicide operations
with the difference that the agent knows he/she hardly returns alive
which greatly helps to violate the red-lines. But in the former, a
hope fosters in the assassin that he/she may escape the scene with
the aid of people, a hope instilled into him/her by the organization
itself. As a result, the assassin tries to tie his/her destiny to a
little of overstepping the red-line since the organization had
falsely ensured him/her that people would create a protecting shield
for a member of the organization to escape safely. But it differs in
a suicide operation; here the accomplishment of the operation is of
the higher significance than the number of the casualties present at
the scene. Besides, the suicide is no more alive to be counted
responsible for the innocent killed. Thus, this kind of operation is
excluded from our issue of discourse and remains the kind after
which the team has to necessarily return to its base after the
operation.
When Rajavi
plotted assassination of people like Lajevardi or the army commander
Sayyad Shirazi, he knew well that killing was an inseparable part of
a planned operation which could never be fulfilled unless through
homicide. Then, it is absolutely absurd if he maneuvers and insists
on vocalized principles of his drawn red-line since the nature of
these operations necessitate killing and blood-shed. Consequently,
the assassin is not the authority to decide to stop or continue,
he/she is only executing a killing plan drawn by somebody else
watching the operation from many hundred kilometers away. It is
really in absolute contradiction to Rajavi’s stated red-line and out
of the control of the operatives. At the end, we see that there is
nobody to be held responsible for violation of the red-line that has
caused many innocent deaths; in fact, it is one of those Rajavi’s
adopted childish tactics.
Now let’s
see what are Rajavi and the organization’s reaction against
operation teams that may have inadvertently violated the red-lines
in the course of the operation. Here, the operatives may have been
killed, arrested or returned. But, in any case, they are not the
ones to be held responsible but their commander in charge of the
operation. Rajavi severely reprimands them for the killings that are
considered a violation of the stated red-lines. Of course, he is
well aware of the fact that he is the sole one to be held
responsible for the crime, but that is how he deals with the fallout
and condemns others calling them inefficient and else. But nothing
more happens and nobody is punished and all ends in a room in an
outburst of humiliating words and sever reprimand because all know
that Rajavi himself had practically a better understanding of what
might happen and which he had implicitly given his seal of approval
to cross his own drawn red-lines. But somebody has to be held
responsible for mere formality who, of course, fails to be the
leadership. I have to add that such a performance of formality runs
only when the organization is disclosed by undeniable facts that tie
it to the incident which it must be held accountable for. However,
in many other cases, the success of the operation never lets
anything else take a back seat and overshadows anything that more
often fails to be ever mentioned and is of marginal interest to the
organization.
To be
continued
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Interview with Batul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part five
Suicide, the ideal means to safeguard information
Sahar Family
Foundation, Baghdad, July 05, 2009
Translated by
Mojahedin.ws
Sahar
Family Foundation:
Mrs. Soltani, let’s talk a little about defensive suicide operation,
that is to say, when someone commits suicide only because of
carrying sensitive or secrete information. Particularly, of what
kind are these information and what are the means through which the
individuals have to annihilate themselves when the time comes?
Batul Soltani: information can be divided in two. The first
are those we carried when going from a place to another which mostly
happened in Iraq. There were times when we drove from a base like
Camp Ashraf to a second destination to meet leadership. We had also
trips to France and other European countries from Iraq or even moved
about in the Europe. In all these missions, protection of
information had the highest priority. The second are the
concentrated ones as we are settled in a place and there is a threat
from without. It might be a regular inspecting measure done by the
US forces in Ashraf for instance or by the Iraqi police for whatever
security objective; all these were considered a threat against our
community from outsiders. Or it happened that we were strolling
about and police would simply suspect us which could lead to further
problems. It had turned to be a big concern especially after the
9/11 terrorist attack when counter-terrorist police had a free hand
to arrest and interrogate whoever they came to suspect. It was
really a hinder for members traveling in Europe. All the information
stated were of the nature a member of the organization had
instructions to deface before engaging in self-destroying. I intend
to explain more for it is a matter of obscurity for people out of
the organization.
I give an
example of the year 2001 when the members of the Leadership Council
were called to have a meeting with leadership in Parsian (where
Rajavi held the meetings). Although it may seem a simple drive from
Ashraf to the place, it required really complicated security
measures. The main focus was on how to destroy the documents we
carried if any challenge hit us en route. There was a general
process to follow for destruction of documents before departure.
There was a head-responsible in charge of the security-check of
information who at the time was Mohsen Niknami. He had other
assistants who were in charge of smaller groups of cadres. Mohsen
was the one who questioned me to ensure about my plans of destroying
personal information now that I was included in the group about to
set off for Parsian. According to already received instructions, I
had to use a can of ethanol that I carried in forewarned
circumstances like hearing gun-shots, tracking downs, sensing a
siege and any fake accident or any other form that could be regarded
a challenge to destroy my own documents and that of other members of
the Leadership Council. That how these members were transported to
the meeting place is another story. The members had to be divided
into small groups and drove on different buses at non-fixed
intervals that sometimes took two hours. When the first bus left,
the next waited to make sure its safe arrival which was the given
green light for its own leave. It was the case with other waiting
buses and all had to follow the rules. There were also strict rules
for the group on each bus. There was one in charge of destroying the
bus in the event of any portentous sign of danger. Besides, one in
any group of three was charged with the task of destroying his/her
comrades’ documents that he/she was well aware of their hidden
places. In spite of all these measures, we were individually
responsible to destroy our documents and information as well as that
of the one next to us if anything happened to our rankings in
charge. The means to destroy them, as I pointed out, was the can of
ethanol we all carried. The emphasis was on the destruction of the
information before self-destruction. Now a question may form in your
mind that of what significance were these documents and information
that required such high precautionary measures to safeguard or
destroy them before anyone could have access to them? First of all,
I have to point out that these documents contained none of the
contents of the highly valued book of the Leadership Council. Nobody
had the permission to have a record of its details in his/her
notebook and all members had to read and memorize the contents while
at the meeting. They distributed it in the course of the sessions
and then it would be collected and thus, all information was in our
mind and nothing on the paper to fear others lay hands on it.
Neither did we carry any classified information. There Then, you may
ask what all these security measures were for? All was done because
of the private notebooks the members had with them in which they had
noted down their daily affaires, the noted dates merely to do a
task, a recorded detail of a task done, some verses of the Holy
Quran and other ordinary and personal notes. It also happened that
we had written some notes while in a session, although it was
absolutely forbidden, and they, with a member called Gity in the
charge, would carefully explore our notebooks and personal
belongings when we were about to leave the hall. But sometimes it
happened that we managed to stealthy take the notes out; however,
none of these notes could be considered classified information in
its real concept. What they called secrete and classified
information was absolutely different with its own special means of
convey that we hardly knew anything about. Whatever means of
transfer they used, for sure it was not by bus or other regular
vehicles as they used for our transfer.
SFF:
In fact, all these security measures that at end may lead to the
destruction of a cadre and his/her information are due to these
personal notebooks?
BS:
Yes, they are. The contents of these notebooks, as I said, were
nothing more than a few notes, dates, necessary phone numbers, or
the date of a given pledge. I remember once in the Leadership
Council I signed a paper that started with a verse from the Holy
Quran which I noted down to memorize. Or details of a meeting that
were of importance. The documents to be destroyed were all theses
trivial notebooks containing worthless information. It was the same
case even in the European countries when we were moving about and we
had some written information with us. The information could be some
phone number we had to contact if necessary. In our meetings there
and when we were being transferred to a certain destination, it was
forbidden to carry any paper or notebook that would indicate our
membership in the organization or any relation with the people in
our company. The only thing we had permission to carry was some
money and a phone number for an urgent call which all other
companions knew where it was to destroy it if necessary. A phone
number in a member’s pocket meant giving the police the opportunity
to hook the first clue that well identified the connecting bridges.
To thwart any attempt by police to obtain the very single phone
number, we were instructed to tear it into small pieces or swallow
it. It is how we destroyed information when out of Iraq. I mean to
say that we were much cautious out of Iraq since at least in Iraq we
had support of Saddam’s Estekhbarat (Intelligent and Information
System) while we had restrictions in European countries especially
after al-Qaeda’s terrorist attacks that had made police to become
more sensitized to terrorist threats and consequently they
intensified security measures. As a result, we had to follow strict
precautionary measures to protect information and relations.
However, the last solution was suicide according to organizational
instructions.
SFF:
Undoubtedly, there should have been real reasons under these
practical circumspect.
BS:
Yes, to some extents they had reasons to be cautious. Once, for
instance, a member called Parviz Yaqubi escaped and surrendered
himself to French police and informed on inter-organizational
relations. He had asked to be granted asylum reasoning that his life
was in danger. Of course, he returned to the organization and later
separated again and now lives in total isolation. But his act of
going and reporting to police had really frustrated Masoud Rajavi.
It was in 1993 or 1994 I think and it cost the organization and
Rajavi a lot. Consequently, it was decided that nobody in his/her
travels out of Iraq had to carry passports and fake IDs cards and on
the members’ arrival in the airport all their documents were
collected and kept by the organization. Well, we thought it was well
decided and, from then on, any member regardless of his/her rank had
to hand over his/her passport on arrival to Europe.
To be
continued
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Interview with Batoul Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part four
Suicide operation, an ultimate solution to security dilemma
Sahar Family
Foundation, Baghdad, July 04, 2009
Translated by
Mojahedin.ws
Sahar
Family Foundation:
Can you elaborate on classified information in the organization, as
it may have different definition in terms of use?
Batul
Soltani:
It is the kind and degree of information that every member of the
organization carries concerning himself, his responsibility and his
relation with other cells. More specifically, there were other ranks
who, because of their organizational responsibilities, knew the
residence of the leadership and his/her visiting locations. Of
course, this classified information vary in terms of sensitiveness
and secrecy according to the responsibility of the members and their
contact with higher rankings but the importance lies on the
concentration of the information in the hands of the members who
form the linking ring between others. The operation teams who came
to Iran for armed operation, for instance, carried some related
information, or it was the same with members residing in other
European countries out of the headquarters in Auvers-sur-Oise. They
knew details about the location of the camps, the members and their
responsibilities and even information about the launched operations
or those at hand. As a result, the organization emphatically
required the teams about to embark on operations to swallow their
cyanide capsules as soon as they felt a risk of arrest. The emphasis
got stronger especially after the 9/11 terrorist incident when the
traffic in European countries were under heavy surveillance and
there was a high possibility of arrest that could lead to extraction
of information under investigations. We had strict order, especially
the members of the Leadership Council who carried a high volume of
information, to commit suicide if anyone came to be a suspect in
confrontation with Interpol. The rankings traveling between Iraq and
the Europe or between Auvers-sur-Oise and other countries had strict
instruction for self-annihilation. It can be said that the most
secure and safest measure of protecting information devised by the
organization was suicide. The important point to consider here is
the cheap value of man within the organization.
SFF:
Will further explain the responsibilities of the members of the
Leadership Council concerning the classified information?
BS:
The information that the members of the Leadership Council carried
were classified as secrete. It was because of their relation with
the leadership which was systematically regarded very important. It
meant that they had to take the ultimate precautionary measures to
protect themselves not because of their own life but as they carried
foremost organizational information which made them suicide
vanguards. They had always a guard accompanying them who had the
responsibility of finishing the job if he/she refrained to commit
suicide or possibly thought of a mischief or escape. A member of
Leadership Council had to have a ready scheme of suicide being it
with cyanide, gun or any other way. But the priority was always laid
on the destroying of the carried documents before doing away with
yourself. The means depended on the circumstance and how you could
prepare them as easy as possible. There was a time when the
organization possessed no gun and cyanide was the best choice, but
the time came when it was vice-versa. I was one of those who always
carried a gun when in Camp Ashraf or whenever I had a trip to
Baghdad. We had strict orders to shot ourselves when sensing the
minimal danger of being attacked or arrested. Once I was in England
and although I was not yet a member of the Leadership Council, I had
instruction of committing suicide since I had second hand but
sensitive information like the location of headquarters where the
Rajavis lived or moved and the security measures concerning them. It
was the same with the information about the headquarters in
Auvers-sur-Oise and in possibly in other countries. Of course, some
information were declassified within the organization as they
happened to lose their secrecy and importance, but they remained
classified for the outsiders. In some occasions when the carried
information were of a very high secrecy, the members carried a mixed
means of suicide, that is to say, both gun and cyanide because in
some cases the cyanide had failed to act. Later it was decided to
carry two cyanide capsules to ensure that one at least would work.
That is how they emphasized on measures of protecting information
and were sensitive about them. All this complicated, systematic
deeds happened in an atmosphere as if they were living in a
different planet. That is why far from any rationale and logic, to
guarantee the protection of the information, the organization grabs
at a most secure way, suicide and self-annihilation.
SFF:
You said in some cases the cyanide had failed to act. Can you
explain about them?
BS:
As far as I can remember it record in the related report, it was the
time when Arash Sametipour had been sent to Iran for operation. He
broke his cyanide when he was on the verge of arrest but the capsule
failed to work and he went into a coma only to revive after a while.
It had critical aftermath for the organization. Unaware of the
arrest of Marjan Malek, for example, the organization first
announced her martyrdom in the course of her operation and even
Rajavi himself appreciated her as a heroine but later, when it was
revealed that she had failed suicide and was in custody inside Iran,
anything changed overnight and she was declared to be an agent of
the Islamic Republic. The failure of suicides was thus very crucial
and cost the organization a lot; it was commitment to these suicides
that decided the organizational identity and the status of the
individuals in the organization. Noteworthy, following the reported
cases of failure, there established a section whose responsibility
was to check over the vehicles of suicide to ensure its efficacy.
There were two kinds of check up, routinely done or case related.
The former was done in a frequent period of a few months while the
latter was a test of an operative’s cyanides before his dispatch to
the mission. Once in Camp Ashraf, before the presence of Americans
and when they had no limitation, they exclusively provided two
cyanides for each member of the Leadership Council. But then
everything changed and there came a time when cyanides and guns were
not as abundant as before; the cyanides were all collected from
among those who once had to carry them. Instead, they innovated a
new way of controlling members with sensitive and secrete
information and members of the Leadership Council in particular. Now
there was a special division with the responsibility of constant
monitoring and surveillance of the members with highly classified
information; they had the responsibility of helping them through any
available means to eliminate themselves in case of facing any risk
of arrest or else; the means could be a gun, cyanide, petrol,
ethanol or anything else.
To be
continued
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SFF interview with Ms Batul Soltani regarding MKO and suicide
operations (part 3):
No
suicide operation done unless commanded by the organization
Sahar
Family Foundation, Baghdad, July 01, 2009
Translated
by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family
Foundation:
Will you explain when for the first time you came to know about the
suicide operation in the organization and how did they justify it
and give trainings?
Batool
Soltani:
The first time I was notified about the sacrosanct suicide operation
was when I was under political-ideological trainings to be accepted
within, to be exact, when I was a trainee member studying the
history of the organization. In the course of the discourses it
happened to talk about Reza Rezai, as the first martyr of the
organization and the first reverent suicide. The organization highly
termed it the sacrosanct suicide operation and tried to inspire us
with it. They explained that when Reza was ringed by police, he
detonated a hand grenade killing himself along with a number of
SAVAK agents. Then they began to give reasons for his daring act
saying not only he eluded being arrested alive but also destroyed
his arms, information and his body to frustrate the agents’ attempt
to have access to them. He was presented as an organizational
archetype for the members to follow, a hero whose adherents could
never be hindered to accomplish organizational ends. In fact, by the
story they intended to mark some points. First, the aspiring members
had to bear in mind that a devoted Mojahed disappointed the enemy
even in obtaining access to his body. Second, it was a daring act
that needed ultimate bravery one could ever achieve; in the course
of trainings, recruits thought it was the last stage a combatant
could make it through the stages of the struggle and thus, the
trainings seemed much valuable and we tried to comprehend and learn
them as fully as we could. In many occasion, for instance, Massoud
Rajavi reiterated that Reza deprived the enemy of accessing his
information and even his arms and body. Of course, his words were
much influential to create a sacramental atmosphere to halo the act
and Reza, in this particular phase of trainings, became the sole
archetype that could well inspire the trainees with courage, and he
did indeed.
SFF:
what was specific in Rezai that they made an archetype out of him?
BS:
As I pointed out, he was displayed a paragon in some manners
especially in his confrontation with police and an example of one
with many potentialities that could be followed as a model. Maybe
they had anticipated that they could successfully meet
organizational ends through these suicide operations and the forces
had to be prepared psychologically to carry out the mission.
Besides, any training requires a certain model and there was no
better match in the organization than Rezai to exemplify for others.
Another point about him was his mental potentiality as well as his
physical. He was illustrated to be much active in his clashes but he
was also mentally competent in analytical and theoretical issues.
Perhaps they meant that a combatant had to attain a high versatility
but easily sacrifice himself. That is to say, even the mental
potentialities of a formidably intellect member hat to in no way
interfere with the commitment to the suicide act. These were all
aspects of the illustrated archetype that could practically
influence the trainees.
SFF:
In what level of background did they arrange for this discourse?
BS:
Everyone in the organization has to necessarily undergo these
instructions, even if some had already passed them. It made no
difference; any recruit had to pass through these discourses which
the suicide operation was an inseparable part. Even I, a ranking
member of the leadership Council, was constantly exposed to these
discourses. It was an issue of high priority on the agenda before
the leadership when the organization reached a critical stalemate.
In the process of dispatching operation teams across the Iranian
borders to carry out operations inside Iran, the prerequisite was a
proclaimed preparedness for committing suicide. They were thoroughly
checked and approved by higher ranks before they were assigned for
the mission. The responsible ranks tested them to make sure they
would break and swallow their cyanide capsules or did other
self-annihilation actions when sensing danger. The interesting point
in all these was that a second fellow had to give a pledge that his
comrade committed self-annihilation and promised that his comrade
would certainly destroy himself in face of danger and in any
possible way.
In general,
it is a responsibility all have to assume in the organization.
Before the invasion of the US against Iraq, for instance, all
members took the responsibility of committing suicide by chewing
their cyanide capsules if Camp Ashraf would be invaded by the US
forces or any threat of arrest, security inspection or else would
foreshadow the camp. We had also preplanned arrangements for
committing suicide by Cyanide and spilling petrol or ethanol over
bodies. We were told to kill or set ourselves on fire if the US
forces ventured to enter the camp to start a house by house
inspection. Even later and in course of the US’s deployment of
forces in the region, we were routinely checked to make sure we were
in the state of readiness. Even among the cadres of the Leadership
Council they were making a firm stand on self-annihilation if any
threat would be posed against the camp by any forces being them
Iraqis, Americans, Iranians and Kurds. It was discussed in details
how to perpetrate the deed when the right time came: the members had
taken the responsibility of reciprocally setting each other on fire
by the means of petrol, ethanol and other flammable substances.
In the
Leadership Council we were frequently notified that anybody had to
be prepared for being killed or suicide. It has always been a key
point in varying phases of the organization. In the phase of venture
operations, the operatives’ priority was to commit suicide by
chewing the carried cyanides, a commitment that the members had to
be again checked for its performance in the phase of the US
invasion. It was exactly what happened in the case of the 17 June
self-immolations; everything was already provided for the operations
and the volunteers were only ready for the signal to begin.
SFF:
How they assessed and discussed the suicide operations in the
Leadership Council? In how many possible ways could they be
committed and under what literature they could be justified?
BS:
There was a certain book in which an article especially focused on
the suicide operation and definitely on the issue of arbitrary
suicides. It mainly argued that an act of suicide could be appraised
worthwhile and valuable only if committed under some organizational
instruction and command; otherwise it was worthless and liable to
criticism and belittled by the organization. It was even worse if it
was a suicide done in objection to the organization; the perished
body was then nothing but a corpse on the hands of the organization.
Even the bodies of these opponent suicides were buried in a
different graveyard outside far from Camp Ashraf. The suicides had
to be justified according to organizational line of ideology and
principles as stated earlier and the cadres of the Leadership
Council were not exceptional but on the front-line with the priority
of using guns and cyanides. Soon after guns and cyanides were
collected and confiscated, petrol and ethanol were replaced as the
alternate means. None of the self-burnings done in France were
arbitrary but justified organizationally; otherwise they failed to
be glorified as they did. In one case, inside Camp Ashraf, a member
called Rasoul, blinded in one of military operations, set himself on
fire in protest against one of the articles of the ideological
revolution called ”article D” (it was about superiority of women
over men in all levels of organizational relations and activities).
His commission infuriated Rajavi who stated that his act done in
opposition to such an issue was denigrated and did not qualify a
devoted member to be buried in Ashraf graveyard where the martyrs
had been buried. The news of his suicide was heavily censored and
they belittled it as a contemptuous act in the organization.
SFF:
When they began to collect cyanides?
BS:
Once Marjan Akbari snitched the cyanide belonging to her responsible
rank and killed herself. Her suicide was masqueraded and reported to
be a heart attack but all cadres of the Leadership Council knew the
truth about her death and from then on they collected all cyanides.
In one occasion, the American forces got suspicious of existing
cyanides in Camp Ashraf and began to search for them but they had
all been already collected and hidden in a secure place. Of course,
at the same time all cadres of the Leadership Council carried
capsules.
SFF:
Did not Americans know that the organization had cyanides?
BS:
It seems that at first they did not, but later on they began to
suspect and search for them. As a result, all cyanides were
collected and delivered to Zohreh Akhyani and the members were told
to seek for alternative working means of suicide. However, it was
resolved that in case of any threat against Camp Ashraf, the
cyanides had to be distributed among the cadres of the Leadership
Council.
SFF:
What was the substitute for the cyanides?
BS:
Both petrol and ethanol. There were even some places where they
distributed the flammable liquids for the purpose of suicide.
To be
continued
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Masud Rajavi's Marriages
Memoirs of Ms. Batoul Soltani – Part 16
Sahar
Family Foundation, Baghdad, June 23, 2009
Translated
by Nejat Society
Before my
involvement with MKO I had no indication of Masud's marriages. I
just knew that Rajavi had fled from Iran but I didn’t have any idea
of what had happened after he left Iran along with Banisadr. I had
no idea about the "ideological marriage"! In 1981, when the office
of MKO in Iran was shutdown, I was studying at school and I was
completely unaware of activities of the organization. At high school
I expressed some sort of opposition. For Example I complained about
inspecting students’ bags at schools or why they forced the students
to take part in group prayers. These were my challenges against the
regime. In fact, I didn’t have enough knowledge about MKO in the way
that I could arrange my activities along with their goals.
Basically, all the information I could get about MKO, Masud and
Maryam Rajavi, and the Ideological Revolution was in 1985 and 1986
when I arrived into the organization. When I entered into the group,
I started knowing about the elevations in their movements.
During the
training process that I passed after I entered into MKO, they never
dealt with Masud’s marriage with Firouzeh Banisadr in open
organizational arguments. Later on, it was discussed in the higher
levels of the Leadership Council. In 1994, we had a meeting in which
the arguments about the MKO’s second founders were presented and
Masud pointed out his marriage with Firouzeh. I don’t think the
issue was transmitted to the meetings in lower levels of the group.
Masud said that he was forced to marry her due to political affairs
and this was the cost he had to pay to maintain the existence of the
National Council of Resistance and Abul Hassan Banisadr as an ally
in NCRI. Actually he claimed that he was not willing to marry her
but he did it for political interests only. As he said, he wanted to
make a family relationship with Banisadr in order to prevent him
getting close to the Islamic Republic. He claimed that Banisadr’s
position against the Islamic Republic was not clear and he was
likely to return back to it. In fact, Rajavi wanted to say that his
marriage was supposed to be an obstacle to stop Banisadr tending
towards the Iranian Regime. He only spoke of such an issue in
private meetings of the Leadership Council and never presented it in
lower ranks.
When I
entered into the organization, the members were not able to think of
these questions at all, since the superiors assigned so many duties
for the members that they never found time to think about such
questions. They even were sensitive about what members were reading
or were thinking about. I don’t remember that I made any questions
on this issue during broader meetings. But since I left the
organization, I have thought on it and I believe that they didn’t
talk about it because they wanted to hide Rajavi’s immoral or
sensual desires.
When I got
to knew it for the first time, it was long after my involvement with
MKO; I asked myself why they avoided talking about it while they
discussed a lot of other unimportant cases for a long time. Deep in
my mind, I guessed that it was to cover Rajavi’s sensuality. They
had nothing to say about that marriage. On the other hand, they
always voiced Masud’s marriage with Maryam Qajar Azdanlu discussing
its outcome. ”This marriage is the path that leads you to be
dissolved in the leadership. Members should abandon their spouses "
they asserted. So how could they justify or theorize the marriage of
Masud Rajavi with Firouzeh Banisadr. I suppose that they didn’t
mention it because of the sensual motives behind that marriage.
Until four
years after my involvement with MKO I had no idea of that marriage
at all. Nothing could be found in the archive or media of the
organization. You should find no news or analysis on this second
marriage in MKO’s resources.
I even
think that a large number of forces have no idea about it.
When I was
aware of such a marriage, I wanted to learn more about her but I
never asked a question. I remember a meeting where a woman stood up
and asked: ”what was Firouzeh’s case?” Maryam immediately replied
but she didn’t make it clear, she just said: ”Firouzeh is still in
love with Masud and she’s not married since her divorce from Masud”.
Actually, Maryam wanted to promote Masud’s personality. Also she
noted that their marriage was in result of a public suggestion and
due to an organizational decision so she explained that the
marriage, as well as the divorce, was imposed to Masud Rajavi. She
meant that Masud didn’t want to divorce Firouzeh because he didn’t
find it moral but the public opinion forced him to do so.
It is worth
knowing that she used the same justification for her own marriage
with Masud. She clearly said:”I imposed myself to Masud and caused
him to go under accusations but I wanted to put away all obstacles
and to belong to the leader, not to any other man. I just wanted to
walk along the leader.’ She said the fact that she didn’t want to be
owned by another man is opposed to leadership’s ideal. She discussed
it for both men and women inside the group.
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An interview with Batool Soltani on MKO self-immolations - Part two
Suicide operation; a solution or sidestepping it
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad, June 21, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
Sahar Family Foundation:
Our greetings Mrs. Soltani. We are ready to continue the issue of
suicide operation if you will. I will pose the first question unless
you have some preliminary remarks to add.
Batool Soltani:
before we continue with your question, I deem it necessary to add
explanations on the previous session’s discourse. First, what
motivates an operator to commit suicide when he happens to come face
to face with the security forces and the police? Does it mean that
there is absolutely no other way? Is it not really possible for a
militiaman to strengthen himself physically and psychologically to
bear pressures of probable tortures, prison and investigations
instead of committing suicide as the last solution? It might be the
easiest way to protect some information but for sure it fails to be
equal to the value of a man’s life. Another point is that it may be
regarded an act of bravery in itself, but can it not be considered
an act of the ultimate weakness and a sense of inferiority? These
questions may seem illogical in an obsessive atmosphere where
anything is routinely scrutinized from a security point of view that
may threaten the existence of the organization. But it does not mean
that in no condition there is a logical and rational solution to any
issue. Although a conjecture, I think it can be confirmed if
discussed in detail with the wise and elite.
But how the organization justifies the suicide operation as the
first and the last solution? What are its good reasons for
exchanging such an easiest and simple way for a man’s life? Within
the organization they say the capacity of enduring interrogational
torture varies from person to person. I think I have read things in
the organization’s sources about the applied inconceivable measures
to assess the members’ resistance and response to the tortures by
exposing them to a diversity of physical pressures like flogging,
depriving them of sleeping, suspending them handcuffed from the
ceiling in a variety of conditions and the like. Then they would
conclude that in spite of varying degrees of resistance, it could be
measured but the exact degree would always remain a matter of
obscurity. In fact, nobody could stand the tortures that could
continue to no definite degree. Of course, they knew that not all
members would be put under the same tortures; it depended on the
ranks and the extent of the information they held. Thus, an arrested
key element and cadre to whom the survival of the organization
depended would break in some point under the tortures, so suicide
would be much more guaranteed than making a risk. It is instilled
into him that suffering and torture are inevitably awaiting him and
nothing is known to what degree he can hold out the arbitrary
tortures that warrant the agents’ access to the concealed
information. This is the angle of the organization’s look at the
issue that needs to be studied in depth in itself.
As I pointed out earlier, the organization’s standards are
absolutely different. The organization unrelentingly persisted that
the ultimate solution to any problem was to offer a sacrifice.
Somebody had to be sacrificed for the cause of the organization,
which has been regarded more precious than the life of a militiaman,
through suicide, self-harming operations or other similar acts. In
one instance, as I remember, Rajavi in justification of the failure
of the Operation Eternal Light stated that he had known from the
very beginning that it was a futile operation from a military
viewpoint, but he did it as it was tied to the survival of the
organization that required so many lives. So worthless are evaluated
the lives of the members that he sends them to their death in swarms
to prove that the organization and the Rajavis are still breathing.
In a message he stated that if anybody set himself on fire in Camp
Ashraf, it would be a cost paid to minimize the limitations imposed
on the camp by the US forces. I mean the suicide case by Yaser
Askari who was said to have committed suicide because of the imposed
pressures on Camp Ashraf. The act is no more a countermeasure to
protect the organization against any threat of annihilation but
rather a means to further certain organizational, and even personal,
ambitious objectives. Here the intention is no more measuring a
member’s resistance degree in case of undergoing torture, rather
suicide turns to be an imposed means to serve the survival of the
organization, a purpose he, the member, has been destined from the
very beginning to sacrifice himself for. I mean to say that the
organization’s innovated self-burnings like that of 17 June and that
of Yaser Askari in Camp Ashraf have been the easiest chosen
solutions to overcome the crises. Even beyond that, the act is
sanctified and glorified as a model for others to follow fervently
instead of criticizing its exploitation for vague and hollow
purposes. And as an alternative, the organization looks for
belligerently innovated means that devour more sacrifices; crushed,
scorched, crumbled bodies with no identity.
To be continued
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Part one: A definition of suicide operations
An interview with Batool Soltani on MKO self-immolations
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad, June 19, 2009
Translated by Mojahedin.ws
In the course of many separations, for the most part during the past
two years, Mrs. Batool Soltani is known to be the highest ranking
cadre detached from Mojahedin Khalq Organization (MKO). She was a
member of the leadership council and the closest to the
organization’s power hegemony and, consequently, she can be regarded
the most reliable source of information compared to other separated
rank and file. The best evidence is the statements and disclosures
she has made, and is still making, on multitudes of issues
concerning the organization.
However, with respect to the complex, interlocking body of the
organization’s cultic relations and techniques, it does not seem
that what she is uncovering for the public is all she knows and can
reveal. But her immediate and close contact with the Rajavis as well
as her high potentiality for precise analysis that puts forward new
discussions based on her personal observations can possibly open a
new window for a further analysis and study of the untold about the
organization. To accomplish the goal, we decided to take a new turn
just along the currently running interviews, that is, to focus on
specific issues of the importance. The themes of the priority have
been classified which we prefer not to mention in whole at the
present since they will be prepared and released according to the
circumstances and particular incidents. The first of these themed
interviews is on the issue of organizational self-immolations as we
are on the threshold of the June 17 anniversary, when, following the
detention of Maryam Rajavi by the French police, a number of members
set themselves on fire.
It has to be pointed out that these statements contain some
dramatic, first-hand details so far disclosed by a ranking member of
the leadership council. The interview starts with a prefatory
emphasis on the history of suicidal operations and continues up to
the June 17 self-burnings. Of the importance in the issue at hand is
the materialization of the suicidal operations as a working means in
the organization, an adopted means committed in a variety of forms
from the past to the present cultic form. The narrative by Mrs.
Soltani presents an explicitly further account of what we have so
far heard or read about the shocking incident. Looking at an issue
from many different angles, her look seems to be novel in itself.
Part one: A definition of suicide operations
Sahar Family Foundation: Mrs. Soltani, our best wishes and
compliments and we also thank you for accepting to continue a new
series of interviews. In fact, we never thought the interviews would
take for so long but it was much because of your own interest and
your precise and analytical details you provided for each question
and the issues in question. As a result, we came face to face with
new ideas that could be well classified into different categories to
be discussed in detail separately. We knew there would be problems
but when you showed how interested you were, I decided that no
problem could hinder. So as not to bother you with further problems,
I have arranged not to prolong the interviews but to focus on themed
issues besides the routinely conducted interviews. Once more I
express my thanks for your remarkable endurance and we hope that
your exposé will solve many problems on the way of social movements
and expose an outlet for the victimized generation, still enslaved
physically and psychologically, to take a sound decision for the
future.
First, I need to explain about the subject before going into further
details. Of the troubles and challenges the contemporary armed
movements encounter with irreparable costs is a commitment to
suicide operations. Of course, as you know, the phenomenon is not a
working means adhered to by the Iranian guerrillas but imported into
our country as the idea of the guerrilla warfare itself. I have to
point out that the main motive behind all this is the detention of
Maryam Rajavi in June 2003 and the consequent self-burnings, but I
deemed it necessary to start a preliminary discussion before we
involve in the main issue. I beg your pardon, but I think you got
what I mean and so I demand you to feel easy to talk about the
phenomenon to whatever extent you wish, that is, how you define
suicide operations, what its forms are and in what circumstances
they are plotted and carried out.
Batool Soltani: As I come to understand from your explanations and
introductory words, the subject proves to require a lengthy
discussion. I hope our discourse on the issue will be of use
somewhere. Let’s first give a comprehensive definition of the term
suicide operation from an organizational point of view and explain
its difference with other kinds of armed operations. In every
perpetrated operation possibly there are some percentages of
killings and in suicide operation there is a possibility leading to
the death of people. But the nature of suicide operations is totally
different as defined by the current political and militia
terminology. It is called suicide because here the perpetrator puts
the priority on self-annihilation regardless of any consequent
outcome, that is, he makes an attempt to guarantee the
accomplishment of the end by his own life while in other forms of
operations the death is always a fifty to fifty possibility. Suicide
operations are mainly motivated under one of the two incentives,
defensive or aggressive.
Before any further explanation let me point out that some people may
say that it was Mojahedin Khalq who first engaged in armed and
guerrilla warfare in Iran. Regardless of to what extent the claim is
true but one thing is clear that the organization is the innovator
of a third kind of suicide operation; sending ablaze human-torches
onto the streets following the June 2003 detentions. I will give
details on the operations. Now let’s see what is the difference
between the two mentioned kinds of operations. I have to point that
it is a personal categorization of the types and I do not know if
there are such definitions in any reference and, thus, they may be
prone to mistake.
The first type is the defensive one, that is to say, the main cause
for this suicide operation is to safeguard the organizational
secrets and information. When the operator faces a serious situation
that may lead to his detention by the police or the enemy’s forces
and which may consequently lead to extraction of his information he
commits suicide as the organizational orders require. This is the
point where one has to risk his life to safeguard and protect the
information and secrets. By his life, he breaks the possibility of
any access to the information that may jeopardize the life of the
organization. During the past five decades of struggle in the
contemporary history you may encounter many examples of such
operations among both religious and non-religious, Marxist
organizations and in Mojahedin particularly. Ahmad Rezai (an earlier
member in Mojahedin’s central cadre) for example killed himself
along with a number of SAVAK’s agent with a hand grenade to avert
falling in SAVAK’s clutches alive. There are members like Mahmood
Shamekhi and more others whose name I fail to remember who did the
same. However, there are a few examples in Mojahedin who have
committed this kind to defend the organization against the threats
of the regime that had tried to uproot the militia and their
movement in any possible way.
There is always a red-line in such organizations where the members
have no other choice but to commit suicide. It does not mean that
the self-annihilation is the first choice when a member happens to
confront the enemy. The red-line means a reaction defined for
certain circumstances when the arrest of a certain operator is a
question of exposing the organization, information and cadres to
irreparable damages. The defined parameter, however, is deliberately
overlooked in the years of the organization’s strife with the
Islamic Republic. A quantitative and qualitative comparison between
the present forces of the organization and those active in Pahlavi’s
regime indicate that such suicide operation naturally had to be more
common since at that time the slightest leak of information meant a
big strike against the entity of the organization and the cadres.
But the amount of these operations is beyond of comparison with
those of the past regime although there is a remarkable difference
between the potentiality and capability of the present and the
former forces. At the present when the organization dispatches its
operation teams from Iraqi soil to Iran, the red-line is a mere
sense of danger and possibility of arrest while neither the
organization has any establishment inside Iran nor its leader reside
there and it has no legitimacy there at all. The red-line becomes
the sense of danger and the operator has the orders to swallow the
cyanide capsule as soon as he/she feels there is a likelihood of
arrestment. That is in absolute contrast with the phase of struggle
in Pahlavi’s reign when 90 percent of the members and the leaders
got arrested and most of them had the opportunity to commit suicide
and to swallow the cyanide capsules. Even inside the prison they
could but did not.
I apologize for distancing from the main issue but I feel it is
necessary to give further explanation to make things clear. Of
course, it is a long organizational issue developed following a
gained extensive struggle experience and the members easily consent
to the instructions for they are organizationally and ideologically
justified. Let me also explain about the red-line out of Iran. The
organization had strict instruction that if the members with secret
and classified information happened to be arrested by the police in
the European countries, they had to commit suicide before they could
speak under the investigations. I mean the red-line is completely
redefined compared to the past and the members’ life as a veteran is
assessed much cheaper.
Another form of the suicide operation is the aggressive one. Here
the operator’s act of self-annihilation is not a spontaneous act but
preplanned. There are some fundamental characteristics
distinguishing it from the former one. First, it is a preplanned
operation far from being restricted to a final choice in facing
unexpected circumstances. Second, it is aimed to fulfill certain
end/s, political, economic, ideological, or more, motivated
according to the perpetrator’s intention. It might be a part of an
organizational analysis of the circumstances or in line with a
tactic of struggle. The third factor is that there is a volunteer
who knows well there would be no return. In some cases, it is an
organizational order rather than requiring a volunteer. In either of
the cases, there need to be some psychological and ideological
preparation before sending the operator on the mission and if any
suspicion of unpreparedness is traced, as it may inflict irreparable
costs on the organization, the mission is either cancelled or
another prepared alternative is substituted.
In the former kind, there always arises a doubt in the operator and
he may not be prepared thoroughly when he faces an unexpected
situation when he has the orders to commit suicide. To speak about
the examples of the latter form in the organization, it generally
happens in the second phase of its armed struggle after the victory
of the Islamic Republic. They took the form of suicide terrorism to
assassinate the leaders of the ritual Friday prayer. An explicit
example is al-Qaeda’s attack against the Twin Towers in 9/11
terrorist operation. There are much more examples of these suicide
operations against European economic and political centers all
plotted by al-Qaeda and other similar terrorist groups. These were
the two types of suicide operations.
There is a third kind which can be referred to as countermeasure,
threatening or protesting. I think Mojahedin can be named as the
innovators of this form of operation although we have its instances
in other parts of the world like protests made against the war in
Vietnam just in front of the UN office and the US Embassies. But
what happens in Mojahedin is absolutely different and unique in its
own. This form guarantees the media coverage and its effect on the
public opinion is so high as the protesters of the Vietnam War did;
their protest was against an anti-human, aggressive and colonial war
and because they could not demonstrate their protest in any other
legal form or conduct through any humanitarian body.
An analytical study of this third kind of operation in the
organization and its psychological aspects indicates how exclusively
it is utilized by the organization as a systematically working
means. The purpose here is neither defensive nor aggressive although
some aspects of the both may be embraced. To talk about the intended
objective of this kind of suicide operation, we have to develop a
good understanding of the outcomes in different circumstances and
how beneficial and worthwhile they can be for the organization. I
believe this is a tactic utilized by an armed, non-democratic
organization challenging a democratic society in general. I mean
utilization of a primitively violent, aggressive manner where you
have the opportunity and the right of defending yourself through
legal systems; but of course neither you have the potentiality of
abiding by the law nor do you ever think it is to your advantage. As
a result, you make an attempt to force the challenger retreat from
the fulfillment of legal actions through threateningly
non-democratic reactions. A look at the setting of these operations,
the European countries and France in particular, and the standing of
the organization there well indicate that these operations are the
result of the dire situation the organization has faced there under
a false pretense; naturally no other backlash can be expected of an
organization with respect to its complicated internal relations,
ideology and armed strategy of struggle. That is why I make the
claim to say that this kind of operation is innovated by the
organization and hardly can you find any parallel in other political
or armed establishments in the world; it has to be recorded
exclusively in the name of Mojahedin. I prefer not to explain any
more until the right time when I am giving details on self-burnings
that is the objective of our interview. I think I have answered your
question to the extent of my information, that is, the definition
and classification of suicide operation.
SFF:
Sure you have done. But your answer breeds more questions which I
will pose in next sessions.
BS:
As you wish.
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Memoirs of Ms. Batoul Soltani – part 15
Masud Rajavi is the fixed axis of the organization
Sahar Family Foundation, Baghdad, June 18, 2009
Translated by Nejat Association
The key approach to know a political or an ideological movement is
to know its leaders in the first place. Masud Rajavi, the leader of
MKO is 59 years old. He was born in the city of Tabas, in the
north-eastern province of Khorasan. He finished his primary school
there and later he moved to Mashhad to continue his high school
education. He was accepted as a law student at Tehran University
where he was linked with the newly established organization founded
by Hanif Nezhad, Badi’ Zadegan, Saeed Mohsen. In 1970, he was
arrested along with a large number of his comrades in the group.
Consequently, all MKO leaders were executed except Masud Rajavi who
was released during the first days of the Islamic Revolution in
1979. Soon he declared his opposition to the Islamic Republic. I
think he had some desires and he knew that he was not able to
achieve them at that situation.
I don’t have much information about him or his political ideas as a
youngster. I just know that he was born in a religious middle-class
family. He had a sister named Monireh who was executed in Iran years
ago. He also had two brothers, Kazem who was assassinated in
Switzerland and Saleh who is living in France now. I have no idea
about his other brothers and sisters. I don’t know if his parents
are still alive or not.
When I joined the organization, I was not attracted by Rajavi
himself since I was too young when he entered the political scene of
Iran. I didn’t know much about him, so he was not a key factor for
my involvement with MKO in the first place. I was actually motivated
by the social and military situation I faced at that time. I felt
that all the ways for my progress were closed or limited so I joined
the organization. Besides, the main influential factor for my
involvement with MKO was my husband since he had been recruited
earlier by the group.
When I went to Pakistan and then to Iraq, I found out that Rajavi is
worshipped as an idol or perhaps just like the God. In a safe house
in Pakistan where I had to stay, I had enough time to think about
the issue. In Iraq I received some training called HS based on the
role of leadership in the organization. I gradually got curious
about Rajavi’s personality. "Who is he in fact? What are his
differences with other people? Why is he so respected?” I thought.
In fact, Rajavi was the core of power in the group. I tried to adapt
myself with the new situation. However, I heard many things about
him, his predictions, and his political and theoretical
intelligence. In fact, I didn’t think about it too much but I just
convinced myself. Sometimes Maryam spoke about him and his
leadership. I wondered if he was really deserved so much
admirations.
Masud Rajavi is the fixed axis of the organization where the
leadership is very important. Every individual who enters the
organization is under close observation all the time and the
person's actions or reactions are watched. When the video cassettes
of leaders’ speeches are played, the members’ reactions are
monitored. They inspect how deep the member is listening to the tape
or on the contrary he is just day dreaming. They even care about the
way the members encounter the arguments. They hold meetings to get
the feedbacks. Even, in the Reception period, the first question
they ask after listening to the tape is that: ”well, what did you
understand of it?”
Basically, all these practices are functions to find the
contradictions in the members’ minds. They called it “mental
contradictions” which could matter in future relations and functions
of the members. I tried to adapt myself. I mean I persuaded myself
with the situation rather than focusing on my contradictions. I
tried to finish with it and get along with the situation.
If the majority had reached a result, I would follow them. I didn’t
talk of my doubts and contradictions. But, it is very important for
them to know the members’ special problems about the leadership.
They want to know their positions, their reactions and their
understandings towards the leadership, following the trainings they
had received. They told us the reason later.
When we took positions in higher ranks of the leadership council, we
were told that a member who had a very tiny doubt about being melted
in the leadership would surely have problems in higher levels and
the leaders’ further commands. Since these members would train their
minor ranks, in turn, their “mental contradictions" should be solved
soon.
As a matter of fact they want to know if the members would stay in
or leave the group. Once an individual is recruited by MKO, all his
abilities and qualifications are acknowledged and categorized
mentally and psychologically. They even matter the quality of his
motivations, emotions and interests. They have a slogan saying that
“Your art as a major member is that you never neglect your minor
members. It means that you shouldn’t face a member who is out of the
organization’s relations regularly. Rajavi even warned that members
might physically be in line but not mentally. He seriously cares
about how the superior members look after their minors. He always
insisted that it is crucial for the majors to know the minors under
their responsibility. In a meeting where some commanders had
attended, he said: ”I don’t care how many people you keep in the
organization. I just care if there is a person in your relations
whom you haven’t known completely.
He meant that you should have enough information about your members’
minds that you can prevent them escaping. The leaders of MKO are
very severe about what’s going on in the minds and hearts of their
members.
They would rather have 10 defectors who have already been known than
1 defector who had not been known before. In each unit they look for
the members who are hesitant. They’d rather have only four members
in a unit but four qualified ones. They say: ”quality is more
important than quantity” this is the goal. This is what they base
these practices on. They want to know the so-called internal or
hidden moments and words of a person.
The first time I visited Masud Rajavi, I was just promoted. I was
moved to the rank S from the rank H. I was shifted from being a
supporter of MKO to a sympathizer. In our meeting with Rajavi, he
stated some arguments about supporters and sympathizers. Then, as I
was promoting to higher ranks, meetings with Rajavi were increasing
as well.
It took me three months since my first days in MKO until I met Masud
Rajavi for the first time. During those months, while I was getting
my trainings, whenever they argued about our contradictions, they
spoke of Masud and Maryam Rajavi. Masud is the unique criterion to
evaluate the extent of devotion of the members. Typically, when
someone from a free society attends the meetings of Maryam or Masud,
they are so eager to know about the contradictions one has brought
from the outside world. They recognize the problems one has in one's
mind and then they arrange their relationships accordingly.
As I said, Masud is the criterion for everything. They want to know
what the person’s motive for struggle according to this criterion
is. Everything is evaluated to in accordance with this criterion.
Everything is clarified by Masud as the core value which shows the
measures of a person’s devotion to MKO.
Before the first visit, I didn’t know much about Masud .So I just
wanted to listen to his words to understand what he cares about. In
the first meeting, he mostly spoke of how professional the
organization was. Maryam was also there. I don’t remember how I felt
or I’d just say I didn’t have any particular feeling. I was mostly
curious to know about his desires, his ideology and his thoughts.
Until my first visit I didn’t know that Masud had married Maryam.
You may be surprised to know that I didn’t know Maryam Rajavi at
all, let alone knowing that she was Mehdi Abrishamchi’s ex-wife.
After I entered the organizational relations I gradually realized
that she had been Mehdi Abrishamchi’s wife before. When Mehdi spoke
about divorce and marriage arguments, he said that it was not a
normal divorce or marriage and this was the first time I learned
about their relations. The leaders of MKO tried to make the
new-comers to consider and judge the affairs in the way the leaders
wanted to. They led the affairs to proceed in the direction they
wanted to, and to conclude with the exact results they had planed
for. So I always tried to cope with their way in order not to be
punished. Even though I had problems or questions, I never exposed
them; I wondered in my mind asking about the contradictions I had
faced with. I wondered what important issue made Maryam divorce her
husband and marry Masud Rajavi; how this phenomenon should be
interpreted.
There were various storms going on in my mind. I thought about the
probability of how dissolute could Rajavi be based on his marriage
with Firouzeh Banisadr (the young daughter of former president
Banisadr) immediately after his first wife was killed in Iran.
I wondered about the social, moral or age factors that had linked
Masud Rajavi with Firouzeh Banisadr. I had a lot of ambiguity and
questions in my mind and of course MKO never was willing to answer
and clarify such problems. I couldn’t understand why they called
Masud Rajavi’s Marriage an “Ideological” one.
It is worth knowing that I was surprised to see in the meetings that
all queries in my mind were discussed. For instance the person in
charge of the meeting presented the arguments around the ideological
marriage. I saw that Masud Rajavi apparently tried to put himself
under moral accusations to clarify the case. In fact they
categorized everything that might occur to the minds of the members.
I was eager to know how they answer the questions I had in my mind.
I supposed that it was really an accusation, how would they defend
themselves.
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Memoirs of Ms. Batoul Soltani – Part 14
By: SFF
Translated by Nejat Society
June 09 2009
A phenomenon called the “Leadership Council”
I would like to discuss a phenomenon called the “Leadership Council”
from its different aspects. After the foundation of his so called
leadership Council, Rajavi found it useful.
In fact, this body had several benefits for him. The most important
advantage of it was that anything Rajavi wanted to be done was
accomplished as soon as possible.
“If this operation had to be done before the formation of the
Leadership Council, I would have had too much challenge to convince
Mr. Hassan Nezam to prepare a unit for the operation, but now when I
explain a plan for Ms. Roqayeh Abbasi or Ms. Mahvash sepehri, I
don’t have to challenge them. I just tell them to do the plan and
they go and operate it." Rajavi alleged in a meeting after an armed
operation.
Rajavi didn’t care if Hassan Nezam or Abbas Davari has the knowledge
and skills to carry out the task. Their qualifications are much
higher than the women who have just taken their positions in the
organization and have no idea about the necessities of an operation.
In fact, he didn’t care what the result would be; he just wanted
them to say “Yes”. He also said: ”The main part of the operation is
performed in my office”. Therefore, after a while, ”No” became a
forbidden word in MKO.
Masud Rajavi said: ”if an official says “Yes, it is possible” and
goes to operate it ,it will be sufficient for me”. He also asked the
leadership Council to make their men work so hard that “they become
so thin” saying that: ”I don’t want those who say “No, it is
impossible”. The problem was that he couldn’t accept “No” as an
answer.
Then the organization launched a propaganda campaign for their new
establishment called the “Leadership Council” claiming that such a
founding was the only one in the whole world where not even a single
male member could be found in it, and this was a privilege for women
and Masud Rajavi’s ideological revolution. They called it a
masterpiece in the human history that their Leadership Council
consisted of just women. This was a new pastime for the members in
the Camp. They talked about their new phenomenon that was an
innovation in the entire world. The pastime aspect of the leadership
Council was used as a tool just inside MKO and not outside of it.
The other argument was about the male members who once had their own
hegemony and now they had to allegedly divorce their positions and
submit them to female members. Rajavi told the men that they should
liberate themselves from individuality by divorcing their hegemony
and giving it out to the women and they shouldn’t think of being the
superior sex anymore. By these interpretations, Rajavi tried to
deceive them to leave their positions. Thus every man who wrote
reports confessing that he didn’t want to submit his hegemony to
women was considered as a superior member by Rajavi. In his opinion
such a person was more advanced within the organization and never
had an untold story. Therefore, a new pastime occupation was made
for male members.
After some time, Rajavi added new groups to his Leadership Council
and began to specialize some of them. He made those people design
the projects for specialization. So a group of people were busy with
a new game! On the other side the passion of promotion flamed among
female members. They were motivated to grow to go to the higher
ranks but when they reached the higher levels there were
contradictions before them and they had to allegedly solve their
contradictions.
Every individual in any level of the organizational pyramid had to
solve the contradictions around his responsibility. They have to
write their Facts (how they encounter the phenomenon) so they are
always busy working.
I remember when Maryam and Masud declared the most recent number of
the Leadership Council’s members. They claimed that they wanted all
women in MKO to be the members of the leadership Council. When I
escaped the organization the number was over six hundred who had
been tricked to become the members of the Leadership Council. Of
course these people had a crucial contradiction: there are not
enough responsibilities to assign all these people to. They sent a
group of them to Europe along with Maryam. A group of them were
specialized for certain duties. A number remained without any
responsibility.
Therefore, even in the Leadership Council there was an irony calling
the Council being shallow or formal. Some people were just tricked
by Rajavi. They only attended weekly meetings to discuss the
challenges in the leadership Council. He assigned Maryam Rajavi to
solve the problems but she didn’t succeed. Then Faeze Mohabatkar was
assumed as the official to provide hospitality and comfort for
members of the council. It was too difficult to provide personal
car, office, desk … for all of these numerous members. This caused
the most pressure on the organization. To remove the trouble they
defined “the member of Leadership Council” as a dog who barks for
his owner”. During the special meetings in layers of leadership
council, they manipulated the members under too much pressure to
convince them to accept their definition of the leadership council.
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Memoirs of Ms. Batoul Soltani – Part 13
Why did Rajavi create his so-called Leadership Council?
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